Fokker F27 Misc

[cowpatz]

Ahhh BXF (or is it BXE?). I have a few hours in that old girl.
Even though the 100 series was a rudimentary aircraft they flew very nicely. In fact I always thought that the 100 series was more balanced in pitch than the 500. Quite noticeable in the flare.
The nosewheel steering on the other hand was a nightmare and only a minor improvement on a basic castoring nosewheel unit. Parking on Gate 10 (gate 18 now) at Wellington in a strong blustery Northerly was a real challenge with many a Fokker ending up stuck askew on the gate with the nosewheel hard over.
Definitely looks smart in the Mt Chook livery.
Funny how the wheel turns. The F27 passenger aircraft departed our skies and we ended up with a rag tag bunch of aircraft filling the void. Now we are back with forty odd seater high wing turbo props servicing most of the provinces again.

[Ian Warren]

There was two other MC F-27 livery's but few or little or no pic's .. was the 1976 orange and red hybrid and early MC paint.

[Snowman]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ May 12 2014,9:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

There was two other MC F-27 livery's but few or little or no pic's .. was the 1976 orange and red hybrid and early MC paint.

You mean like this one of ZK-DCB ???.................................

Note the Ministry of Transport logo on the fuselage behind the cockpit windows................

[Dash8captain]

This POST is becoming very interesting! especially your input Lawrie

[Snowman]

Anyone ever seen this livery on ZK-BXE ???? ............................

[Snowman]

ZK-DCB in her full Ministry of Transport "CivAIR" livery....................

[Splitpin]

QUOTE (cowpatz @ May 12 2014,9:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Ahhh BXF (or is it BXE?). I have a few hours in that old girl.
Even though the 100 series was a rudimentary aircraft they flew very nicely. In fact I always thought that the 100 series was more balanced in pitch than the 500. Quite noticeable in the flare.
The nosewheel steering on the other hand was a nightmare and only a minor improvement on a basic castoring nosewheel unit. Parking on Gate 10 (gate 18 now) at Wellington in a strong blustery Northerly was a real challenge with many a Fokker ending up stuck askew on the gate with the nosewheel hard over.
Definitely looks smart in the Mt Chook livery.
Funny how the wheel turns. The F27 passenger aircraft departed our skies and we ended up with a rag tag bunch of aircraft filling the void. Now we are back with forty odd seater high wing turbo props servicing most of the provinces again.

"Now we are back with forty odd seater high wing turbo props servicing most of the provinces again." .... how it turns indeed CP.

QUOTE (Snowman @ May 12 2014,10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

ZK-DCB in her full Ministry of Transport "CivAIR" livery....................

Where do you get this stuff from Lawrie ?? amazing ...

[Snowman]

Another resident of days past,.............. ZK-RTA, Ansett Air Frieght





ZK-NAO, in very early NZ Post livery........................

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (Snowman @ May 12 2014,11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You mean like this one of ZK-DCB ???.................................

Note the Ministry of Transport logo on the fuselage behind the cockpit windows................

That's the bird, there is another

I did catch a looksie at the Ansett F-27 aircraft in a hanger during a aeronautical meet in 1987, had a good wonder through 748s on there checks .

[Splitpin]

Lawrie , where have the old RNZAF fokkers gone ?

[SA227]

Some great photos there.
I flew in both BXF and DCB with Mount Cook in fact did a neat flight deck trip with Dave Wyatt and Kevin Brunnell in BXF Christchurch - Queenstown empty at 0530 then Queenstown - Mount Cook. Got bumped off at Mount Cook due payload restrictions so hitched a ride back to Queenstown on the Twin Otter and flew Queenstown back to Christchurch on the jumpseat of the 748. A most enjoyable day.

[Snowman]

QUOTE (Splitpin @ May 12 2014,11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Lawrie , where have the old RNZAF fokkers gone ?

Ahh yes,............ all ex NAC / Air NZ F27-100s, all purchased brand-new by NAC.

ZK-BXB, "Kotuku" NAC / Air NZ, NZ2781 RNZAF, sold to Laoag Intl Airlines in the Phllippines registered as RP-C3888...........
Broken up for scrap in Manilla in November 2002.
ZK-BXC, "Koweka" NAC / Air NZ, NZ2782 RNZAF sold to Laoag Intl Airlines in the Philippines registered as RP-C5888.
Later sold to President Airlines in Cambodia. Current status is unknown.............
ZK-BXD, "Korere" NAC / Air NZ, NZ2783 RNZAF sold to Laoag Intl Airlines in the Philippines registered as RP-C6888.
Written off in a landing accident at Macton on 6th December 1995.

At least one ex NAC F27-100 survives in pristine restored flying condition.
Its one of the second-hand F27s NAC got from Aer Lingus back in the 60s.
F27-100 ZK-NAH "Kawatere", formerly EI-AKA "St Feidhlim" of Aer Lingus, arrived in NZ 27 July 1966.
Was pressed into service still in its Aer Lingus livery 2 days after arriving here, to cover for 2 Viscounts down with tail cracks.
After full conversion to NAC standards. it entered service officially on 15 November 1966.
It first entered service with Aer Lingus on 23 March 1958, and was the FIRST production model F27 to ever fly.
It returned to the Netherlands in late 2004, and underwent a full overhaul , and now flies with the Fokker Heritage Flight
in early NLM colours as PH-FHF.
It still has the NAC logo'ed fabric on the cockpit seats to this day !
The aircraft takes part in a number of airshows, including the Flying Legends Airshow in the UK.
This is how ZK-NAH looks today......................




Some of the later Ex NAC / Air NZ F27-500s are still flying with Murpati-Nusantra Airlines, alongside their F50s.

[Splitpin]

Lawrie "google" snowman .... i thought they had gone to the Phills (for a song , as i recall) sad ....
Great to see NAH alive and well .... CP might have her in his log book as well .

Excellent post Lawrie .... excellent

[Snowman]

ZK-NAB, Auckland Intl. Airport, August 1983



ZK-NAB, Mid 1970s..............

[Snowman]

Just for you Splitpin,......................

NZ2781 (ex ZK-BXB) Queenstown, 24th October 1987

[Naki]

Liking this thread Lawrie! And the initial pics from Dash8capt. Was going to ask where is the RNZAF f27 and the MoT F27.... but you beat me to it!

[Dash8captain]

I found a couple of shots on the net as well - not sure of the details though

[Ian Warren]

BXG Kea is your Ashburton that sit out in front of the Museum, it was sitting between the hangers at Wigram 6/7 years back, disconnected the wings at the engine nacelle then toed down, It dose look someone has been work or least cleaning and painting it.

[Snowman]

QUOTE (Splitpin @ May 12 2014,9:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Damm right Lawrie ..... tell the story , Im interested

Sorry SP,............. i just realised i hadnt answered your question.....................

The story on ZK-BXF in Mt Cook Livery,................

Fokker F27 Mk100. C/N 10185
First flight brand-new from the Fokker factory as PH-FCZ in August 1961.
She was the 6th Friendship in the original order from NAC, and arrived new in New Zealand in 20th September 1961, registered as ZK-BXF, and named "Kopara".
She served NAC through all the livery changes of NAC, and then in April 1978 she went to Air New Zealand and was painted in the interim hybrid orange/red Air NZ livery, and finally in the blue/green striped Air NZ livery.
She was leased to Mt Cook Airlines in 1994, and spent quite some time flying in their colours, before being sold in the Philippines.
Last known to be in storage in Manila.

The photo of her in Mt Cook livery on the previous page was taken at Rotorua.

[Ian Warren]

I do believe this is NAO, when I climb into it around 93/94 the internals were growing simply because it wasn't sealed , recent from early this year.

Now used as a toy for the fire boys, cabin staff using the 737 bolted to the side of a maintainence hanger close by the cargo area.