NZFF

by **Naki** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:57 pm

Maybe we Kiwis are all colour blind!.

...I guess it also depends on what the weather is doing too ...some winters can be dry, summers can be wet etc etc which wil affect the greeness or the lack of ... it would be next to impossible to replicate that.

I haven't flown in any other season in NZSI yet other than Autumn and Winter so Im looking forward to seeing summer (apart from a brief glimpse - Im flying in real time).

by **Ian Warren** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:03 pm

On a average one thing that happen every seven year you get a climate change either drought or a wet summer , in the late 1998/1999 summer it was so tender dry you could just about spit on it and it would catch fire , were as in 1997 the entire summer was more like a winter ... due to the moisture when the sun come out even the seemly dry port hill around Christchurch were green .

This is the reason i advocate and cheer for photoreal because its honest - I look at it this way were just last night Doug posted me the most recent Canterbury and Christchurch updates .. these are static and higher resolution cut and blended into ORBX and it looks brilliant , now the job is to blend the outside ORBX with a near compromise with Autogen , flying in on a bright sunny day you will pick up a slight difference .

Think of a true approach but come in with little cloud , real world weather , the atmosphere blends it so perfect so making a true VFR or if you please a IFR you are over real Christchurch , still a lot off work to be done but the thing is flying into the major centers its as real as it can get , Big'O' just fills in the gaps

PS: Due to this being an important subject , no word off Wobblyville (ex-Christchurch) and Wobblivillians or Wobblyvites

Sir Peter Jackson may use the name under licence

Edit : put a 'Sir' in front off Pete

by **Timbo** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:15 pm

Actually to extend on Naki's comments I have noticed a marked difference in coloration depending on the weather I select, flying on a bright clear day (as per REX RW weather LOL) intensifies colors more than say using Orbx_weather_1 which almost makes the terrain go greyscale, not even going to mention the effects ENB/Shade can have

@Robin and Ian, yes its a bit like that, you work with what you have, but in reality you'll never be able to completely represent total 'true-ness' within the confines of FSX, one must simply pick a point and run with it, the same goes for airports, its a snapshot at a given time, just wish your aerial imagery quality would catch up with the streetview imagery

The best thing is the simming punters now have a choice of total coverage from two different sandboxes/development styles, which is fantastic for everyone, you guys truly live in a beautiful unique part of the world, enjoy it!

Cheers
Tim

by **toprob** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:19 pm

Naki wrote:
QUOTE (Naki @ Jul 25 2012,2:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe we Kiwis are all colour blind!.

The percentage of colour-blind flightsimmers is almost double the national average. This is because most are males, and males are more likely to be colour-blind...

by **Ian Warren** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:29 pm

toprob wrote:
QUOTE (toprob @ Jul 25 2012,4:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The percentage of colour-blind flightsimmers is almost double the national average. This is because most are males, and males are more likely to be colour-blind...

Nice with having an accident - especially the noggin, i got tested ... colour depth and perspective was perfect ...

by **toprob** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:08 pm

Timbo wrote:
QUOTE (Timbo @ Jul 25 2012,3:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@Robin and Ian, yes its a bit like that, you work with what you have, but in reality you'll never be able to completely represent total 'true-ness' within the confines of FSX, one must simply pick a point and run with it, the same goes for airports, its a snapshot at a given time, just wish your aerial imagery quality would catch up with the streetview imagery

Cheers
Tim

I've all but given up on that. After ten years of working with this, things actually seem worse than the early days.

Thanks for that clarification, I'm sure that this makes more sense to Trolly than telling him he's wrong. I would think he spends more 'real' time in the air around Auckland than everyone else on NZFF combined.
This has always been my main point -- the better you know an area, the more 'off' it will look if it difference is too great.

by **goingboeing** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:44 pm

hey guys I have flown over nearly every bit of NZ and in all seasons, I agree that NZSI is probably a bit green in the central Otago regions but Southland for example is spot-on.

The screenshots for NZNI look pretty darn awesome the photos of Mt Tarawera are absolutely correct I fly over this region nearly every day at work, the North Island is generally much greener than the Sth Island (bar the barren-volcanic regions) so Orbx scenery IMO suits the Nth better.

I too hope that FS-Creators wicked Taupo and Hamilton airports are usable with NZNI as well as Robins Wellington and Auckland because I think Nelson and Blenheim work really well with NZSI.

by **creator2003** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:19 pm

I would just like it to finish Beta and come out ,how long now .?.

by **ardypilot** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 7:57 pm

Timbo wrote:
QUOTE (Timbo)
Actually to extend on Naki's comments I have noticed a marked difference in coloration depending on the weather I select, flying on a bright clear day (as per REX RW weather LOL) intensifies colors more than say using Orbx_weather_1 which almost makes the terrain go greyscale, not even going to mention the effects ENB/Shade can have

@Robin and Ian, yes its a bit like that, you work with what you have, but in reality you'll never be able to completely represent total 'true-ness' within the confines of FSX

I agree with this, the Orbx weather themes seem to create the most realistic atmospheric mood in FSX for me. Having done a lot of real world flying, I'm always trying to find a spot on match in the sim to what I've been viewing out the cockpit window, although, because the appearance of the terrain varies day to day with weather conditions and seasonal changes, each comparison I try to make is different!

Having said that, I still have never seen NZAA looking as lush as it does in the preview screenshots- however, I'm sure it will look different under different lighting conditions as people have mentioned. Here's a few snaps of the field I've found on my hard drive, all from mid winter at it's wettest:

And after a further looked through some NZNI preview images- the Central Plateau looks great, as does the treeline autogen. I'm still unsure of the colourisation for the bulk of the countryside, but will definitely test it out once it's released I reckon!

by **IslandBoy77** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:02 pm

Trolly: Good call on the Southern Oscillation: with all the GW stuff floating about these days, it's a useful reminder of the regular cycles we experience for weather.

Great pics on NZAA - nice to see the old runway again.

by **GlennAV8R** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 2:55 pm

http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/472...244#entry415244

New screenshots of NZNI Airports

by **Ian Warren** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:08 pm

IslandBoy77 wrote:
QUOTE (IslandBoy77 @ Jul 25 2012,11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good call on the Southern Oscillation

I think that's what i had for dinner last night , kept on going around and around in the strangest ways

GlennAV8R wrote:
QUOTE (GlennAV8R @ Jul 26 2012,3:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
New screenshots of NZNI Airports

Now i wonder if they have a local choo choo pass thru Gissy airport

and if it dose .. dose the Beech stop at barrier arm crossing on landing

by **Naki** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:39 pm

GlennAV8R wrote:
QUOTE (GlennAV8R @ Jul 26 2012,2:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/472...244#entry415244

New screenshots of NZNI Airports

Lets try and name them in order:

Matamata
Matamata again
Taumaranui
Gisborne
Gisborne again
Hamilton
New Plymouth
Tauranga
Tauranga again - dont recall the drain though

by **Ian Warren** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 3:54 pm

Naki wrote:
QUOTE (Naki @ Jul 26 2012,4:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tauranga again - dont recall the drain though

Your right , must have buried it cos Tauranga airshow three years back had many aircraft taxi in directly off the on the grass , two notable ones was the sightseeing Dak and the Cat , recall them using the grass field unless there is a crossover point on the ends

by **ardypilot** » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:01 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Jul 26 2012,3:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now i wonder if they have a local choo choo pass thru Gissy airport and if it dose .. dose the Beech stop at barrier arm crossing on landing

The runway extension gets closed if signal lights indicate a train is crossing. See AIP NZGS AD 2 46.1.

QUOTE

Tauranga again - dont recall the drain though[/quote]
Yeah there definitely isn't a drain there.

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