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Postby graemer » Sat Sep 08, 2007 3:48 pm

Hey guys, quick question, are the PAAPI lights on 34 and 16 supposed to work with Real Wgtn? Mine don't seem to - Well, at ground level they are red and anything above they are all yellow.

It wouldn't suprise me if there is a conflict in one of the previous scenery files I had, but I thought I had removed them all.

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Postby ardypilot » Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:24 pm

I've noticed this also, always thought I was too high on appoach but after slewing up and down I get the same lights all the way.
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Postby graemer » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:58 pm

Hi Robin,

Have you seen this thread?
I thought I may have had a dodgey AFCAD from an old install, so re-installed everything from scratch and still have the same problem.


Is this a known problem?

Thanks
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Postby toprob » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:11 pm

Sorry, yes, I did miss this.
This is not PAPI, its T-VASI. The lights are red only when you are well below glide path, as in holy cow climb! The trouble is, the lights are slightly covered by the custom runway (difficult to get around) but I did make sure that they are readable.
The row of lights you are taking as PAPI actually represent the glide path. If you can see lights above this, you're high -- 3 lights=very high, 2 lights=high, 1 light=slightly high. Lights below the line represent too low.
EDIT: oops, I kinda gave the impression that you'd always need to fly down if you had one high light. T-VASI is actually useful if you need more eye-height, such as in a 767. In that case you'd aim for one high light. In this way its more accurate than PAPI.
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Postby graemer » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:45 am

toprob wrote:
QUOTE (toprob @ Oct 23 2007, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, yes, I did miss this.
This is not PAPI, its T-VASI. The lights are red only when you are well below glide path, as in holy cow climb! The trouble is, the lights are slightly covered by the custom runway (difficult to get around) but I did make sure that they are readable.
The row of lights you are taking as PAPI actually represent the glide path. If you can see lights above this, you're high -- 3 lights=very high, 2 lights=high, 1 light=slightly high. Lights below the line represent too low.
EDIT: oops, I kinda gave the impression that you'd always need to fly down if you had one high light. T-VASI is actually useful if you need more eye-height, such as in a 767. In that case you'd aim for one high light. In this way its more accurate than PAPI.


Thanks Robin. Understand this now. Was there a reason for going to T-VASI? I thought Wellington uses PAPI, but happy to be corrected on it.

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Postby toprob » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:45 pm

graemer wrote:
QUOTE (graemer @ Oct 25 2007, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks Robin. Understand this now. Was there a reason for going to T-VASI? I thought Wellington uses PAPI, but happy to be corrected on it.

Cheers


Honestly not 1000% sure -- my 'current' info is obtained from AIP (PDF file).
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Postby graemer » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:01 pm

toprob wrote:
QUOTE (toprob @ Oct 25 2007, 01:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly not 1000% sure -- my 'current' info is obtained from AIP (PDF file).


Cool, I stand corrected! tongue.gif I was sure I saw PAPI lights a while ago. I wonder if there is an upgrade project going on with the extension to the runways, or perhaps I need better coffee thumbup1.gif

Thanks for sharing your info Robin!
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Postby scon » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:40 pm

Wellington Airport used to use T-VASI, but since the runway extension they went to PAPI I believe.
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Postby Tazman280 » Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:30 pm

Hi!

I have the same problem as the threadstarter at Tauranga Airportwhen I am trying to land. But whatever I do I never see any lights above or beneath the 4 white lights in a row.
It does not matter how high or low I fly!

Is there any way to use the PAPI or T-VASI?

Oh, and I am using the FS2004 Version!

Best Regards

Chris
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Postby Alex » Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:36 pm

This thread covers the T-VASI lights at Real NZ Wellington. Is your problem at Tauranga or Wellington?

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Postby Tazman280 » Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:45 pm

My Problem is at Tauranga Airport. That`s why I wrote "at Tauranga Airport". winkyy.gif

But I don`t think that it`s supporting the clarity if I start a new thread about a problem that seems to be the same.

Hope it doesn`t matter....

Chris
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Postby toprob » Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:51 pm

Tazman280 wrote:
QUOTE (Tazman280 @ Mar 15 2009, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My Problem is at Tauranga Airport. That`s why I wrote "at Tauranga Airport". winkyy.gif

But I don`t think that it`s supporting the clarity if I start a new thread about a problem that seems to be the same.

Hope it doesn`t matter....

Chris


I will take a look at this, but at the moment I haven't reinstalled FS2004.
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Postby Tazman280 » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:56 pm

Hi!

Have you reinstalled FS2004 now or can you say when have an answer for me?

Greetings

Chris
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Postby Ian Warren » Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:55 pm

Tazman280 wrote:
QUOTE (Tazman280 @ Jun 21 2009, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have you reinstalled FS2004 now or can you say when have an answer for me?

Hi Chris , Robin is currently in hospital , very seriously ill and to undergo an operation next week , could i ask to give him a month or two for recovery .

Cheers Ian
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