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by **pois0n** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:35 pm

Goose wrote:
QUOTE (Goose @ Mar 10 2009, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cheers for the advice guys, i failed the sim flight test today tho my stalling in a turn was what did it, lost altitude immediately so got a fail, but in my defence we have hardly practiced it because the plane wont stall in a turn properly anyway. On top of that my forced landing was to high and so was my flapless approach. Have a revision flight first thing and then another sim. Prob more revision thursday and flight test on friday i think.

Wasnt a good flight all around today, nothing i did really felt as tho it was my best, and i could see exactly what i was doing wrong but couldnt seem to do anything about it. Just a bad day i guess, hopefully will be better tomorrow

Stalling in a turn? WTH?

I haven't heard of anyone having that in their PPL test before

by **Goose** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:06 pm

bestpilotindaworld wrote:
QUOTE (bestpilotindaworld @ Mar 11 2009, 08:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What kind of plane are you in??

Cessna 172, it wont stall properly, like the stall warning comes on but she just keeps turning and generally holds height, could get it to if i reduced power but not allowed to

pois0n wrote:
QUOTE (pois0n @ Mar 11 2009, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Stalling in a turn? WTH?

I haven't heard of anyone having that in their PPL test before

oh really? we'll my instructor made me do it, hopefully its not in the actual flight test cos the rest of them im fine with.

by **pois0n** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:54 pm

Goose wrote:
QUOTE (Goose @ Mar 11 2009, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
oh really? we'll my instructor made me do it, hopefully its not in the actual flight test cos the rest of them im fine with.

Stalling in a steep turn is a CPL level exercise

by **Goose** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:38 pm

pois0n wrote:
QUOTE (pois0n @ Mar 11 2009, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Stalling in a steep turn is a CPL level exercise

yeah i was told i probably will not be tested on it but we did it in the sim test anyways

by **SA227** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 5:47 pm

Hang on, how can you "fail" a simulated flight test on something that is not part of the flight test criteria?
I'm all for upping the skill level etc but your instructor needs to revisit his or her's instructional techniques course notes.

Good luck with the real flight test

by **Goose** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:05 pm

SA227 wrote:
QUOTE (SA227 @ Mar 12 2009, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hang on, how can you "fail" a simulated flight test on something that is not part of the flight test criteria?
I'm all for upping the skill level etc but your instructor needs to revisit his or her's instructional techniques course notes.

Good luck with the real flight test

i dunno a, haha. Failed on other things as well. Real flight test first thing tomorrow, not looking forward to it but pass or fail ill be glad when its over! if i dont post results on here for a few days its because i failed and am drowning my sorrows...... or it could mean i passed and am still celebrating, haha

by **danieljrm23** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:59 pm

Good luck!

Hey, I sat all my PPL papers last saturday, does anyone know how long ASL usually takes before marks come online? They still arent on yet

It said up to 7 days.

by **pois0n** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:38 pm

7 working days.. and then maybe 1 or 2 extra

by **HardCorePawn** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 8:17 am

Yeah... when they say 7 working days... they really mean it

I am probably going to fork out the extra $30 on Monday for priority marking for CPL Met... I don't like waiting over the weekend... and most of the people around me don't like it either!

by **WasFlightOps** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:14 am

Whats the deal with the computerised exams? I had a look at the ASL exam timetable and there was a notice across the top saying "computer exams from 29 June" or word to that effect. Anyone? Got some ATPL's to finish.

by **HardCorePawn** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:35 am

Basically they are moving to the system that the rest of the world uses

They are going to setup some computer based testing centres... you rock on up... pay them $$$, they sit you at a pc... clickety clickety for X number of questions... you click submit and you'll be told instantly whether or not you have passed or failed...

Obviously, there is a little bit more to it, but that is generally how it works... I think they were saying that you might have to pre-book your timeslot to guarantee that they can fit you in etc...

I think this also means they are going to move to a system where you can sit exams whenever you like (during business hours of course)... so you will no longer be constrained to their timetable... of like 1 or 2 days a month

Not sure how they are going to work Nav (i'm not sure they know either)... given that apparently the exam is made up for you when you log in (it randomly draws questions from a big giant pool)... but with Nav you need the appropriate charts and 'story' etc...

Last I heard, they have already setup a "test" test centre down in welly HQ... they were doing some PPL ones...

This is why I am keen to get my CPLs done... don't want to have to get involved with the new system until it has been running for a while and they have had a chance to work all the kinks out...

by **ardypilot** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 8:21 pm

Was just about to post the same question, when I flicked back to the last page and realised that Daniel is the same Daniel as in my AFS class lol!

I still haven't got my results either- it's been two Saturdays since I sat the PPL exams now, and even though I've been checking daily on the net, it still comes up with 'not marked yet' every time I enter my slip numbers...

by **HardCorePawn** » Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:34 pm

Odd... they really should have marked it by now... although I think it is a little different with the PPL ones, as they are done 'onsite' at AFS aren't they? They schedule testing around your class schedule from memory... so maybe they have a different timeframe on marking???

In other news, I had my final exam today... CPL Met... quietly confident that I will pass... thinking around 80%... I paid for priority marking, so I should have my marks hopefully on Wednesday afternoon...

fingers crossed

by **ardypilot** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:34 pm

Well my results finally showed up mid afternoon, passed everything, although I was a bit disappointed with my Nav percentage. Thought I aced that test- will be interesting to see the knowledge deficiency report.

PPL Human Factors - Pass 88%
PPL Meteorology Pass - 83%
PPL Technical Knowledge - Pass 75%
PPL Flight Navigation Pass - 75%
PPL Air Law - Pass 83%
FRTO Aeronautical Radio Telephone Practices - Pass 84%

Still happy I can legally sit the flight test now

Congrats to Daniel too- I know he passed everything as well. And all the best HCP, let us know of any tricky questions to look out for. We've got our CPL Met coming up in about 9 weeks!

by **HardCorePawn** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:34 pm

Trolly wrote:
QUOTE (Trolly @ Mar 17 2009, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well my results finally showed up mid afternoon

Ahhhh that explains why mine havent shown up yet... too busy marking yours!!!

Congrats Mate... my instructors always say things like "75%?? that's 5% too much!"...

I then usually point out that it means 25%[1] more KDRs they need to work through!

Unfortunately in Nav, its one of those subjects where some of the questions lead on from each other... so if you screw up near the beginning of the chain, you end up getting lots of stuff wrong!!

As for CPL MET... hmmm the whole thing was tricky... so many little "rules" to learn... wind backing/veering and increasing/decreasing.... coriolis this... pressure gradient that... Southern Oscillation... La Nina and what this means for weather, El Nino and what THAT means for the weather, difference in weather patterns between southwesterly flow, north westerly flow and south easterly flow... what the weather is like when you have a blocking high... ELR's, DALRs, SALRs...

the list is endless!!

One tip I will give you, which i got from the study guide i used (pilotbooks), is to read AIPNZ GEN 3.5... and then read it AGAIN... there were some subtle differences in the way METARs/SPECIs/TAFs/ARFORs etc are done... and what some of the codes mean...

ie. VC which means 'in the vicinity' used to be defined as 'not further than 8km from airport perimeter'... this now means 'between 8km and 16km from airport reference point'... subtle difference, but there was a question testing this specific knowledge!

Also they have changed the visibility reporting to show 9999 which means 'at least 10km'.... and CAVOK is now used (cloud and visibility OK, which means vis >= 10k and no cloud below 5000', no CBs, no Thunderstorms and no precipitation)... whereas the study guide says "CAVOK is not used in NZ"... One of the dangers of borrowing a slightly older (Jan 2006) book as opposed to getting my own copy of the most recent...

Still, the book did state that these things change and to check the AIP... so I did

[1]Note to maths pedants: Yes yes... I realise it is not actually 25%... but you get the point!

by **ZK-Brock** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:47 pm

Yip one of my old instructors put it like this, "what you got 90%, you studied way too hard!"

by **HercFeend** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:15 am

Trolly wrote:
QUOTE (Trolly @ Mar 17 2009, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well my results finally showed up mid afternoon, passed everything, although I was a bit disappointed with my Nav percentage. Thought I aced that test- will be interesting to see the knowledge deficiency report.

PPL Flight Navigation Pass - 75%

Congrats all on your results - good work. Hey Trolly, think about it this way - you'll only get lost 25% of the time

by **HardCorePawn** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:39 am

OMG.... 96%!!!!!

woohooo! So thats all of them done... I am now the proud owner of a CPL Exam Credit...

by **HercFeend** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:07 am

HardCorePawn wrote:
QUOTE (HardCorePawn @ Mar 18 2009, 08:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OMG.... 96%!!!!!

woohooo! So thats all of them done... I am now the proud owner of a CPL Exam Credit...

Good job HCP

by **ardypilot** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:14 pm

Great job Jarred- feel free to take me up for a spin again anytime soon and teach me what you have learnt!

And also- how the heck did you get your results so quick???

After class today I was up in -XAT with my mate Tom who's doing his C-Cat training- got to sit in the left hand seat of the might Skyhawk for the first time and went down to Mercer. Did some max rate turns and various stalls and power off approaches- was a ton of fun and conceded very conveniently with the drag/vortices stuff we'd been learning about in POF earlier- got a great video where the turn we pull is so tight, that we hit our our wake at the end of the rotation! Will try and upload it sometime in the future.

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