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Postby Naki » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:17 am

Its one of the runways at Honolulu International Airport - its built on a reef and is known as the Reef Runway.
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Postby deaneb » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:36 am

jastheace wrote:
QUOTE (jastheace @ Sep 30 2008, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
technically no, earthing is something different, if no one is closer i will give it to alex,


Technically yes - it is very important to ensure both tanker and aircraft are grounded to earth first prior to connecting the hose and/or bonding tanker to plane. Whilst you may be thinking in terms of small aeroclub sized planes, refuelling also applies up to the large commercials and these can hold big static charge, which needs to be eathed before bonding.
I don't want to change the answer you selected and the direction of this thread - I merely want to clarify an important safety point.

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Postby HardCorePawn » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:16 pm

Naki wrote:
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Its one of the runways at Honolulu International Airport - its built on a reef and is known as the Reef Runway.


For the nickname...


But still have not got the 'claim to fame'...
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Postby Naki » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:57 pm

thats all I wanted the chocolate fish biggrin.gif - I was hungry and I forgot my lunch today....... so thanks
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Postby Njbb1995 » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:58 pm

Was it the first major runway constructed entirely offshore? Or,
an alternate landing site for the NASA space shuttle?
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Postby HardCorePawn » Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:11 pm

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Was it the first major runway constructed entirely offshore?


Ding Ding Ding... we have a winner!



and because you actually identified 2 claims to fame... i'll give you another one!

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Postby Njbb1995 » Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:13 pm

Thank you I will save those for later.......

Ok I will go get a question I'l be back soon
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Postby Njbb1995 » Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:39 pm

Ok heres the question:

Who is the editor of Classic Wings magazine?
For a Box of Jaffas Where Is the magazine based?

Good luck!!!!
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Postby Naki » Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:41 pm

Graham Orphan - Blenheim
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Postby Njbb1995 » Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:46 pm

Ok that was easy harhar.gif

And your Jaffas

EDIT: Oh yea your up Naki
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Postby Naki » Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:03 pm

ahh more lunch!

Okay on what occasion and where did a RAF Harrier perform at an airshow in New Zealand (clue: I was lucky enough to be there) and for a bonus point when was this.
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Postby Blabzillaweasel » Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:36 pm

No idea what occasion but im pretty sure it was Auckland?
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Postby deaneb » Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:40 pm

Air Expo 92 - Auckland International Airport in 1992.

Great show and exceptionally well co-ordinated, except maybe when kiwi red were in bound directly toward the crowd whilst an ANZ Bandit was taking off! I also went to the airshow. The day I went they pranged one of the WWI aircraft replicas, (can't recall whether it was 3/4 scale triplane?) also the BD5 jet suffered a nose gear collapse on landing. In 92 I was working on 5 Squadron and we hosted the Harrier guys, who put the aircraft together in our hangar after it arrived on the IL76 transport. I got to fly out on the IL76 when they took it accross to AK INTL, making us I believe the first serving service personnel to leave a kiwi air base on a Russian aircraft !! We also hosted and had a look at the large Russian amphibian they brought out as well.

Airshow images

I must dig out some photos myself

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Postby Njbb1995 » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:18 pm

92 jeez I wasn't even born then!!
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Postby Naki » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:32 pm

Correct Deane -yea I was at the other day of the airshow - I think the aircraft in the accident was a 3/4 scale SE-5a.

Was the first time I saw the Alpine fighter collection - Corsair, Kittyhawk and Avenger.

It was great been metres away from 747s taxiing down the runway - betcha they never have an air show there again.
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Postby deaneb » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:27 pm

Naki wrote:
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It was great been metres away from 747s taxiing down the runway - betcha they never have an air show there again.


So there you are really close to a taxiing 747. But if you were to look up and see a 747-400 flying overhead at max operating alt, how high would it be (in feet).
An easy one really
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Postby Alex » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:30 pm

Wouldn't be around FL450?

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Edit: Oh, in feet - 45000?
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Postby jastheace » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:33 pm

deaneb wrote:
QUOTE (deaneb @ Oct 6 2008, 12:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Technically yes - it is very important to ensure both tanker and aircraft are grounded to earth first prior to connecting the hose and/or bonding tanker to plane. Whilst you may be thinking in terms of small aeroclub sized planes, refuelling also applies up to the large commercials and these can hold big static charge, which needs to be eathed before bonding.
I don't want to change the answer you selected and the direction of this thread - I merely want to clarify an important safety point.

Deane



yup, most big commercial aircraft are bonded with the hydrant, according to our manuals at work, you don't earth aircraft or the refueller, only bond them, as it equalises the two, infact it is specifically stated that the aircraft and refueller must not be earthed, with out a lot of special conditions.



Dman, i was looking forward to those jafas, would have been nice to see the harriers!!
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Postby deaneb » Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:08 pm

Alex wrote:
QUOTE (Alex @ Oct 1 2008, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wouldn't be around FL450?

Alex

Edit: Oh, in feet - 45000?



Close, but It needs to be to the nearest 100 ft for the choccy fish !!
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Postby deaneb » Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:29 pm

jastheace wrote:
QUOTE (jastheace @ Oct 1 2008, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yup, most big commercial aircraft are bonded with the hydrant, according to our manuals at work, you don't earth aircraft or the refueller, only bond them, as it equalises the two, infact it is specifically stated that the aircraft and refueller must not be earthed, with out a lot of special conditions.
Dman, i was looking forward to those jafas, would have been nice to see the harriers!!


Hmmm interesting I wonder why this differs to my experience. Mine is all military and in my time as a Tech I have refulled Strikemasters, Skyhawks, Orion, Hercules and 727. We always had to earth tanker and aircraft before bonding. If you did not do that, then they would not give you gas. Same went for Singapore, Aussie, Canada and US. Also I taught Aircraft Maintenance for 2 years and the same text book info was preached. I'm assuming that because of the use of hydrants with the large commercials and maybe some other means of earthing for aircraft is why you don't earth. Its hard to find stuff on the net, but most say to earth if a proper earth point is available (which we always had on aprons) otherwise bonding is more important. People pay lip service to this, but there have been plenty of cases of aircraft destroyed by static electric discharge during refuelling. At the end of the day its about following the procedure laid down for your organisation.
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