The Soviets are invading!

[Naki]

Hey that wasn't intentional! -you are right it wasnt the Pogo it was the turboprop verision of the F-84F - just conincidence that I posted shots of the normal version.

Is there FS model of the Turboprop version?

[FlyingKiwi]

Sure is, although it's a fairly old one for FS2002 and FS2004. I used to run it in FS2004 and it looked fine; probably wouldn't be FSX compatible.

http://www.flightsim.com/cgi/kdl/main/50/x...59.zip?8GdPe01w

[Naki]

Hmm might try that out.

Of course all these Cold War pilots had to learn to fly. One of the most popular basic & primary trainers during the 70s and 80s was the SF-260 (and still serves with many air forces including Belguim and Italy). These are Belgian Air Force SF-260s, some pictured with the teeth of the Belgian Air Force; the F-16





Couldnt get a decent formation because of the huge speed disparity


Check your six!










White Falcon celebrating 20 years of Belgian Air Force F-16 service in 1998 (yea falls outside cold war but nice scheme)

[Ian Warren]

FlyingKiwi thanx for the link

QUOTE (Naki @ Dec 31 2007, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Of course all these Cold War pilots had to learn to fly. One of the most popular basic & primary trainers during the 70s and 80s was the SF-260 (and still serves with many air forces including Belguim and Italy). These are Belgian Air Force SF-260s, some pictured with the teeth of the Belgian Air Force; the F-16
White Falcon celebrating 20 years of Belgian Air Force F-16 service in 1998 (yea falls outside cold war but nice scheme)

F-16 , 1970's .. that s a Cold War , Belgian Air Force's replacement to the F104 , the primary training , Belgian Air Force SF-260s 2008 Subject

Logistics The heavy prime mover .

The western big boy on the block









Model by Alphasim

[Naki]

Mmm the C-5 doesnt look too bad!

[Ian Warren]

Were are the Russians

[FlyingKiwi]

Well, here's a North Korean Russian...







Hmmm, just noticed, I probably shouldn't have left that landing light down, whoops.

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (FlyingKiwi @ Jan 1 2008, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hmmm, just noticed, I probably shouldn't have left that landing light down, whoops.

fuew , that was lucky, i thought muzzle flash,s , COOL PICs

[Naki]

One more trainer/fighter combo

This time in Finland with the fighter that started all this - the Mig-21 together with the Saab 91 Safir. The Safir was operated by the Swedish, Finnish, Austrian, Tunsian and Ethopian Air Forces during the 50s and 60s.
This is the excellent Sibwings model - very highly recommended.

[Charl]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Jan 1 2008, 12:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Were are the Russians

Why, building the world's biggest aircraft, of course!
(Still is, despite the A380!)
It just squeaked in to the Cold War era in the mid-80's but really did more to foster E-W relations than anything else.
As evidenced by this quick archival visit of the Buran Space Shuttle to the competition at Cape Canaveral:

Built by Antonov in the Ukraine, it can eat giant loads, like locomotives and things.

There is only one of these aircraft, and it turned out to be a good commercial decision to complete it, it is fully booked.

A second Mrya is under construction to double the world's ultraheavy airlifter capacity

Model was freeware on Flightsim.com some time back.

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (Naki @ Jan 1 2008, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

This time in Finland with the fighter that started all this - the Mig-21

heck time flys , all that! , a year ago ,
Mikoyan Gurevich MiG 21.............Fishbed , I would love the job naming new cold war fighters

no point mention history about this warplane just so many of them made

and used by every one





NAKI,s little fire starter that kept the COLD WAR thread Burning

Model , latest freeware at Flightsim.com -GMMIG21B.ZIP By Pierre Marchadier

[FlyingKiwi]

Nice shots everyone. The AN-225 is an amazing aircraft; and to think it very nearly ended up on the scrapheap when the Soviet shuttle program ended! Love the MiG-21 too, always been one of my favourites, and I managed to have a closeup look around one a while back when Red 8008 was at Ardmore.

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (Charl @ Jan 2 2008, 08:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Why, building the world's biggest aircraft, of course!
(Still is, despite the A380!)
It just squeaked in to the Cold War era in the mid-80's but really did more to foster E-W relations than anything else.
As evidenced by this quick archival visit of the Buran Space Shuttle to the competition at Cape Canaveral:

Charl , I would hate to be the person to polish that one It was rumoured the Buran (fuselage) was put on world tour and in Sydney 2001 ?

For interest sake , that big tracked vehicle , that transports the Shuttles to the pad is called the "Crawler" which there are 2 off , at 3000 ton each makes them the largest land prime mover in the world , max speed 2 mph (3.2 kmp ) ...... anyone want the fuel bill ..... at 26 gallons per foot

Great shots matey

[cowpatz]

Not wanting to be a spoil sport but isn't this thread getting a little long and wandering off topic. Takes a while for the pics to download and doesn't help my data cap at all
Just my .02 c worth

[Charl]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Jan 3 2008, 11:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

anyone want the fuel bill ..... at 26 gallons per foot

Haw haw imagine the conversation between Governors of California and Florida:
"Say Arnie, what're y'all doing over there about this Global Warming Thing??"
"Well Jeb, we're getting de Hydrogen Humvee down to 9 miles to a cubic foot, how 'bout you?"
"Fellas down at the Cape reckon with a little more Cow Manure and Corn Syrup, we'd get the Crawler down to 25 gallons a foot!"

[Charl]

QUOTE (cowpatz @ Jan 3 2008, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Not wanting to be a spoil sport but isn't this thread getting a little long and wandering off topic. Takes a while for the pics to download and doesn't help my data cap at all
Just my .02 c worth

Oops lets rewind back to just before the Connie then...
This one would've blown the competition into the weeds, if it wasn't just a little late in delivery.
It was truly "flying on all fours" meaning: four engines, 400 mph cruise, 4,000 mile range, at 40,000 feet



Problem was, Boeing already had the B-29 and B-50 available, so although the Republic offering was better in many respects, funding was cancelled.
Its biggest Cold War mission was "Operation Birds Eye", which amounted to something of an Own Goal.
Per Wiki:
The mission was conceived to demonstrate the newly-designated XF-12's ultimate photo capabilities. On 1 September 1948 the second prototype XF-12 lifted off from Air Force Flight Test Center at Muroc, California, and climbed westward to gain altitude over the Pacific Ocean. Upon reaching its 40,000 foot cruising altitude, the XF-12 headed eastward and began photographing its entire flight path over the United States. The crew shot a continuous 325 foot-long strip of film composed of 390 individual photos covering a 490-mile-wide field of vision. The aircraft landed at Mitchell field at Garden City, Long Island, New York, completing a flight lasting six hours and 55 minutes (at 361 mph average speed). The record-shattering flight was featured in the 29 November 1948, issue of Life magazine and the actual filmstrip went on exhibit at the 1948 Air Force Association Convention in New York

[Ian Warren]

Hecks , I could not believe a model of this one , would have been interesting to see how far the aircraft progress , i think Howard Hughes may have been the force that stoped future devolpment as well with TWA muck up with Lockheed and the Connie .

[Fauville]

Back to the russians, but keeping the training aircraft in mind, the Il-28 had the bomber/nav nose cut off and had a cockpit built in its place to train the pilots of these early cold war jets, designated Il-28U
First a normal type as comparison


and now the U version



and keeping cold war training in mind, 70's 80's Brit pilots would start their training in this little fellow
Scottish Aviation bulldog



before progressing into the JP

Tucano came later, but Hawk was introduced late seventies

[Naki]

Nice shots Fauville - I like the Brit trainer combo -the Bulldog (presume its the PSS one?) I think it was my very first addon - darned if I can find it anywhere anymore as PSS has closed down - (although it was taken off their site long before they closed shop) - havent really looked on Avsim for it though - is it there?

[hugh]

This threads so long now its hard to tell if this wasnt posted yet, but "¦ Northrop YB-49, freeware by J Higgs