Track IR 4 Help Needed

[dnkiwi]

Hi guys I have just recently purchased a Track IR 4 and I have no idea how to set it up correctly it has the hat clip I have been able to use it briefly in fsx but it seems to lag a bit if anyone can help or give me pointers or even advice on how to get this working correctly I would be very grateful.





thanks in advance
Jason

[rocky289]

I also have one of those.
Would suggest viewing some of the tutorials on you tube.
Easier than trying to explain it.
Regarding lag.
I do find it can slow things down.

[dnkiwi]

ok thanks the lag seems to be the movement when looking around but im not sure if I have set right

[Ian Warren]

Just relax with it ..... turn head in short gentle motion and it will smoothly follow .... it simply dependeds on your range of vision and perception and what you trying to focus on

[emfrat]

I used it in my FS9. I remember quite a lot of things, including sensitivity, could be controlled through the setup. It is important not to have any 'false' light source - I had lots of probs until I realised it was a thin band of bright sunlight coming from behind me and reflecting off the screen. Fixed that by closing the office playroom door completely.
It is also better not to sneeze when you're on short final

[dnkiwi]

ok thanks I know currently I don't have any light sources behind me other than the tv. the fella I brought it off suggested the track ir pro led clip but I don't know enough about them to decide if they are the better way to go with it as he said it seemed to more accurate on his own setup with the led pro clip instead of the hat clip

[emfrat]

Must admit I always felt a bit silly with the funny hat on. Before the LED thing came out, some folk who wore glasses were getting good results with a bit of alfoil on the nosebridge, instead of the hat thing. I still have it, but the current flying machine is a bit short on USB ports, so TIR is not installed.
Cheers

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (emfrat @ Aug 11 2013,11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Must admit I always felt a bit silly with the funny hat on

I simply run the Track IR and go silly , the ole funky chicken

[nzav8tor]

The LED clip isn't much better than the hat but it at least it doesn't give you hat hair and it is more stable. Sometimes the hat thingy can fly off at a critical moment!

You can set trackIR up in a way that works for you. For instance my right eye is a bit weaker than the left so I have it setup so that when I turn my head right the range of motion on the screen is more allowing my left eye to have share of the peripheral vision. This appears as an asymmetrical curve on the setup screen.

When you first sit down and get the hat/headset with cip on, get into a comfy position and hit F12 to sync your position to the middle position of the track IR range.
With trackIR setup screen open you should see the three view of your virtual melon. When you hit F12 it essentially puts you in the middle. If you are a bit far away from the sensor then you may need to adjust things to get your head close to the middle of the crosshairs. This means that you will get the best range of motion before the sensor is out of sight of the reflector.

Now you may find when you are in the cockpit that your view is not balanced well enough between instrument panel and outside view. In this case I tilt my head slightly to where I want it to be biased then hit F12 to re sync the centre position. Then when I move my head to its central position the view is now biased off centre to give me a better view. This is easy to demonstrate than explain!

Imagine you are looking forward but your head position is too low, you cant see over the instrument panel. Crouch down in your seat so your view so now mostly panel, hit F12 and then sit up normally. Your view position will have shifted higher as you are now sitting higher than what it thinks is your central position.

Ok, so the next thing is to setup the sensitivity of the motion compared to your head travel. Of course you don't want it to be 1 to 1 as to look out the side window you'll be looking 90 degrees from the screen and you a) you won't be looking at the screen anymore and b) the sensor won't be able to see the reflector.
So the range of motion on the screen is of a higher ratio than your actual head movement. This can be setup up by dragging the points up to create your curve. This is showing how much range of motion will be translated for how much head offset angle. If you have a very narrow and steep band, the view will move alot relative to small head movements. This is handy for dogfighting when you want to be able to snap your view to your 6 o'clock etc but it makes it very difficult for clicking switches in the virtual cockpit as its difficult to keep your head precisely still. The default range of motion is probably a hit slow for my liking.

There are also hot keys to slow the motion down. F9 will temporarily pause track IR which is great when you want to have a good look at something on the panel or you get a bit of sunlight interference. Now I can't remember exactly but I think F11 turns on smooth motion which slows the view right down. Check the hot keys settings to confirm.

Basically the key is to experiment and tweak the sensitivity to what feels right for you. It can take some time and may be different in different aircraft too. You can save profiles for this purpose.

As Ian said the key is to keep your head movements precise and smooth. Personally I don't use it in heavy aircraft, the angles you need to see the overhead panel etc are to annoying and trying to keep steady enough to click switches etc is just frustrating. The normal space bar mouse view is much easier and faster. But for flying an approach, the trackIR view is very intuitive.

Hope this helps!

[dnkiwi]

ok thanks im not sure if I will use it for the fixed wing flying but chopper flying will be a definite for me . I will give your tips a try and see how I go I am thinking Its just a minor tsetup teak here and there that needs a fine tune

[dnkiwi]

hi guys just a quick update on my progress with track ir I am finally getting the hang of using the new setup thanks to all for the advice and tips now all I need to do is set it up for take on helicopters and I will be all set im hopeing the setupe will be much the same as that used for flight sim . as it turned out there was some grime on the reflectors of the hat clip so I solved it by using some lcd screen cleaner and found that the track ir was picking up the movements very quick . So far I have noticed it easier to fly the choppers in flight sim using the gear .

[Ian Warren]

Very handy to have with the Helicopters , makes for a real feel for roof top landing s

[dnkiwi]

it still amazes me just how much the screen cleaner helped but none the less it done the job . I can't wait to get back into flying online and really putting the new setup and gear to the test