Air NZ's first Dreamliner taking shape

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Postby deeknow » Thu May 09, 2013 3:38 pm

It may only be one section, but its a start New_Zealand_etc.gif

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Boeing is ahead of schedule in reaching what Air New Zealand says is a major milestone in building the airline's 787-9 Dreamliner.
The first major part for the aircraft's tailplane has arrived at Boeing's Everett factory in Seattle, three weeks ahead of schedule.[/quote]



see: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/aviation/news/ar...563&ref=rss
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Postby Ian Warren » Thu May 09, 2013 4:32 pm

The way Months are racing , Boeing's new "Big Ass bird" .. well 'nickname' for the B-17 in 1940/41 made a late debut butt< became famous in its history .. Lets hope the tail of this Big Ass Plastic Bird follows the promise with its .. a speedy delivery .
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Postby Charl » Thu May 09, 2013 5:01 pm

The March 2013 edition of AIR International has an in-depth article on this bird.

I had previously thought there were the normal teething troubles found in any airliner's life.

Not so, this is a deeply troubled project, and has a lot to do with the outsourcing used.

The fleet is still grounded, months on, because the NTSB is asking some very difficult questions about the whole design philosophy.
Not least: how come the aircraft builder is the one certifying the sub-systems?
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Postby Ian Warren » Thu May 09, 2013 5:09 pm

I think many of the problems are exactly the same as the Airbus Corp .. trying to glue things quicker than it has to set ... old days everything was in-house today .. spread around the world and mother when that happens go's FUBAR .. Primo-donna's looking for a cash fix and no work to show for it ........... Hmm , idea.gif
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Postby cowpatz » Fri May 10, 2013 9:29 am

Three weeks ahead of schedule but 3 years late and it wont do what it was promised to do. The -9 should be called the Lemonliner.
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri May 10, 2013 9:40 am

cowpatz wrote:
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The -9 should be called the Lemonliner.

Why is it these days promoters promise things and they can't deliver ... and they get payed for it ! blink.gif ... maybe they should turn the tables and put the people types .. the "Paper pushers" rather sit there do the job of building it ... "Lemonliner" ... maybe a "Paperweight" ... and if someone asks them for their credentials .. They would simply say "DO YOU NO WHO I AM"
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Postby cowpatz » Fri May 10, 2013 11:10 am

Ian Warren wrote:
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Why is it these days promoters promise things and they can't deliver ... "


You mean like Airsimmer? sad.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri May 10, 2013 11:17 am

Not to sure "Airsimmer" never heard of them since .. since .... since .... "DO YOU NO WHO I AM" biggrin.gif
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Postby NZ255 » Fri May 10, 2013 3:57 pm

cowpatz wrote:
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Three weeks ahead of schedule but 3 years late and it wont do what it was promised to do.

What would that be?......or not be?
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri May 10, 2013 4:21 pm

NZ255 wrote:
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What would that be?......or not be?

Arr Shakeyspear , and they say i'm full of riddles rolleyes.gif .....

PS: Nick , while we have your attention winkyy.gif Your Masterton "Hood" Airfield scenery .. come on .. bring it on .. we have one from the 12thBomber group who really could have used it in the Screenie Compo ... ohmy.gif Oi and come to think .. new PC of the past yet no entries
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Postby deeknow » Fri May 10, 2013 6:07 pm

Charl wrote:
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I had previously thought there were the normal teething troubles found in any airliner's life.
Not so, this is a deeply troubled project, and has a lot to do with the outsourcing used.

Be interested to read that article, mostly because outsourcing is nothing new, the 767 and 777 were outsourced, the 787 is simply following the same pattern.
And the A300/310 were outsourced all over Europe as is the A320, you'd hardly call any of those troubling projects.
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri May 10, 2013 7:18 pm

deeknow wrote:
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Be interested to read that article, mostly because outsourcing is nothing new, the 767 and 777 were outsourced, the 787 is simply following the same pattern.
And the A300/310 were outsourced all over Europe as is the A320, you'd hardly call any of those troubling projects.

Way of the world , Airbus had its real problems outsourcing ways back , the late 1970s and early 1980s .. I think the biggest problem with both groups Airbus Boeing is having management who know , then the ones who don't and cheat themselves into areas of logistics .. strange rather having one group doing a brilliant job , ..... you get someone running around pretending to no what they do .. least proved himself in the fronting .. but dose nothing .. a YES boy .... so that is were the problem starts .
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Postby HamiltonWest » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:12 am

Air NZ's Dreamliner to take flight from 2014
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Postby deeknow » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:10 pm

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Postby Ian Warren » Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:56 pm

I can smell the tube of plastic cement from here biggrin.gif
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Postby cowpatz » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:11 pm

Be very interesting to see how they repair the Ethiopian 787...if in fact they even can. Be an embarrassing first hull loss winkyy.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:23 pm

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Be very interesting to see how they repair the Ethiopian 787...if in fact they even can. Be an embarrassing first hull loss winkyy.gif

Still a fair bit of alloy/balsa used in the partitions .. sure i could fix it up for em unsure.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:13 am

I was speaking to SeanG yesterday, since he builds 737 simulators he gets the joys of getting on board the 787 at the Boeing plant, gets a run down of cockpit operations, these aircraft config themselves to the the pilot , example the seat height and position adjusts and wraps around the pilot so to speak and its saved for that person so when he get onto a different aircraft his pilot number go into the next aircraft and adjusts to the way previous, now that's a safety feature.
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