NZFF

by **Naki** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:08 am

Alabeo are making a Staggerwing...

http://www.alabeo.com/index.php

Coincidentially one has just arrived in Auckland to live...

This one

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kurtsj00/7805...in/photostream/

http://nzcivair.blogspot.co.nz/

by **Ian Warren** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:26 am

Strange looking thing , they did have one display at Wanaka in the mid 1990s and it dose have a performance to match it retractable gear .

by **dbcunnz** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:47 pm

They have had two at Omaka a few years back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Icp7vB61A

by **Kiwia1spad** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:57 pm

The Staggerwing has a good history here in NZ, there have been a few over the years including back in the late 30's and 40's.
cant wait to see this one when its done

by **FlyingKiwi** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:23 pm

Definitely looking forward to this one, the Staggerwing is a beautiful machine.

by **lowglow** » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:27 pm

Nice I can't wait till this one comes out

by **KiwiElf** » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:59 pm

Thanks for posting this Naki, I just got it! It is one of my favourite vintage aircraft and this model is AWESOME!

After a few initial hassles downloading (4 x attempts), it's installed and working,.. urrr flying. Absolutely beautiful, easy to fly (almost stall-proof - it just kinda gracefully mushes at around 50-55 kias. No bugs that I have experienced, but you need to hand fly this bird: no GPS or autopilot (altho I soon fixed that with a quick bit of config editing). It's REALLY hard to see over the nose - almost impossible to land in the VC (quick reverse screen change to make the cockpit disappear just before landing).

Sorry guys and gals, I'm cheating: I pasted the autopilot specs, GPS and AP from the default C172 which works great if you prefer those things. I LOVE THIS PLANE!

Pretty cheap too - just a bit over NZ$25 and about a 89 MB ZIPped file, but virtually no documentation at all (easy enough to get checklists and info elsewhere tho).

Sadly the real one mentioned earlier, a very rare G model, belonged to the late Eric Hertz, CEO of 2Degrees, who was killed with his wife Kathy, several weeks ago when his Baron crashed into the sea off Raglan

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:27 pm

Pleased you got it and up and running , I staggered real fast .. thinking .. do I want to be a Capitalist Pig or a Communistic Pig .. "I VONT PLARN - Kick Toir und Vly" and not break down

Getting goods at mes Russian Oih!

by **KiwiElf** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:59 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Jun 8 2013,7:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pleased you got it and up and running , I staggered real fast .. thinking .. do I want to be a Capitalist Pig or a Communistic Pig .. "I VONT PLARN - Kick Toir und Vly" and not break down

Getting goods at mes Russian Oih!

LOL am putting her through some tests as I write comparing to the real specs. Alabeo have done a really great job, weights, performance etc are pretty well bang-on (unlike some Carenado aircraft) - just seeing if she'll climb to her max ceiling of 25,000 ft. Am using the flight notes from the default Goose and Beaver as they have the same engines - so far so good. Have bumped up the cruise climb specs to about 1.2 (most of them need this for realistic ceiling performance and slightly lower stall speed) and have knocked back the pitch stability from 1.0 to about 0.6 as there's some bad shaking at around 140 kts (flat out it's supposed to do around 184 knots - which it does) - could have been caused by my autopilot addition hehe. All good! Am gonna have hours of fun out of this wee bird me thinks

(And I've learned how to crank the seat up and down (eyepoint) yayyyy!

- I can see over the nose now!!!! Just have to figure out how to do a screen grab on the Mac Laptop running Windows ;-/. It doesn't have a "print screen" like a full PC keypad. (Frame grab in the Mac mode is easy) grrrrrr :-/

by **KiwiElf** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:13 pm

Holding steady at 300fpm, 87 KIAS @ 16000 ft - this is going to be a very SLOW climb (maybe with just pilot and almost empty tanks it will do it??? time for a coffee!

by **gojozoom** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:05 am

I actually found a full POH for the military/navy versions (basically identical) here:

http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircr...-airplanes.html

Also, here are the factory specifications:

http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircr...ifications.html

by **KiwiElf** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 10:31 am

gojozoom wrote:
QUOTE (gojozoom @ Jun 10 2013,10:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I actually found a full POH for the military/navy versions (basically identical) here:

http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircr...-airplanes.html

Also, here are the factory specifications:

http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/en/aircr...ifications.html

Awesome find, thank you gojozoom! Have bookmarked this site for future reference. I had everything BUT the fuel flow consumption and most of my re-doing of 70's - current aircraft came from FLYING Annuals. (No Staggerwing tho, which I managed to get most of the info from other sites)

flightsim.to · by **jankees** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 7:18 am

I'm loving it!

by **Ian Warren** » Sun Jun 16, 2013 9:34 am

You Son of a Beech

trying to twist arm , i'm only allowed one Bi-plane per year

flightsim.to · by **jankees** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 1:06 am

twist and turn...

by **Ian Warren** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:51 am

I say there would have been a lot in Australia than New Zealand , I can't find one on the NZ civil register pre 1970 .

by **FlyingKiwi** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:35 pm

Auckland Aero Club did operate one back in the 1940s. Not aware of any others in NZ in that era though.

by **Ian Warren** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:38 pm

FlyingKiwi wrote:
QUOTE (FlyingKiwi @ Jun 17 2013,10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Auckland Aero Club did operate one back in the 1940s. Not aware of any others in NZ in that era though.

Sure it was not a Waco , not my specialty GA types .. i'll keep sourcing and hopeful find a pic , other info

by **FlyingKiwi** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:54 pm

No it was definitely a Staggerwing, it was also taken over by the air force during WWII, not sure what happened to it after that, I believe it returned to the club at least briefly and I have a vague feeling it ended up going to Australia.

by **Ian Warren** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:23 pm

FlyingKiwi wrote:
QUOTE (FlyingKiwi @ Jun 18 2013,9:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No it was definitely a Staggerwing, it was also taken over by the air force during WWII, not sure what happened to it after that, I believe it returned to the club at least briefly and I have a vague feeling it ended up going to Australia.

Yip found it ,Known only by its construction designation C17L used between 1939 to 1946 - NZ573 used as communication liaison and medical transport , ZK-AEU c/n107 one of six 'L' variants built

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