"Bugger that wasn't supposed to happen"

[dbcunnz]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/7918348/Pl...anding-approach

[Ian Warren]

Jimmy Jillickers .. that was so .. so DUMB !

[IslandBoy77]

Yeah, I saw that earlier today. So, in NZ, how would that have played out in a responsibility / legal sense? From the conversation towards the end of the vid it appears that the pilot's wife is blaming the people in the car. A white car passed along the same road going the other way at the start of the vid, so what's the verdict?

[Ian Warren]

Pete , your right .. its the DUMB and the DUMBER ! ... and the big Texan hats .. Legal is the US Eagle , fact is it was an airfield .. some are simply not to Bright , if i was to step back in time .. I want that pilot for the ground attack role , propellers have to be WWII

[deaneb]

Many airfields and airports have perimeter roads. Its not clear whether thats a public road or not, if it is then I'm not sure why it would be inside the fence. If it is within the airfield perimeter then the vehicle must give way to the plane. Any vehicle near a runway should remain vigilant and aware of aircraft traffic. My verdict - the people in the car were most definitely to blame.

[dbcunnz]

QUOTE (deaneb @ Nov 10 2012,11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Many airfields and airports have perimeter roads. Its not clear whether thats a public road or not, if it is then I'm not sure why it would be inside the fence. If it is within the airfield perimeter then the vehicle must give way to the plane. Any vehicle near a runway should remain vigilant and aware of aircraft traffic. My verdict - the people in the car were most definitely to blame.

Private airfield and a private road
http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/denton/Caug...-177177461.html

[IslandBoy77]

So there are 2 debates on the website linked by Doug. One sides that says it's the pilot's job to ensure a safe landing (which is true). The other side which says that the driver should've seen the aircraft / stop sign & stopped (which is also true). So there appear to be 2 errors: driver failed to see (or notice) the stop sign and the aircraft, and the pilot was too low for his approach. So if everything else is equal, if this WEREN'T a private airfield, what would the verdict be?

[deaneb]

On any airfield or airport I have been on - ground vehicles ALWAYS give way to planes. On landing a pilot will be concentrating on the landing, not looking out for rogue traffic! Sure the plane was low - just another reason why the traffic needs to be more vigilant. Any vehicle should slow down (even stop) and do a good visual survey of the approach area (or down the runway if they are at opposite end and aircraft are taking off toward them) for any aircraft, before proceeding. As the video shows, if you make a cursory glance - you can easily miss it. But verdict remains - ground traffic at fault for failing to give way. However looking at google earth, this road is the only access to all the hangars on the other side of the field, so it probably needs sorting out.

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (deaneb @ Nov 11 2012,11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

But verdict remains - ground traffic at fault for failing to give way. However looking at google earth, this road is the only access to all the hangars on the other side of the field,

Good example of this and the possible disasterous out come , and i do no , Christchurch Transport Board bus's stopping within and any of the city limits railway lines crossing roads and the driver looked both ways ... today that dose not happen due to the demise of the railway traffic but reply totally on faith the barriers are going to work .

Fact is , a Rule , same as you said Deane and even the same in the air ... before turning look and look again .