dh89a Dragon Rapide version 4 released

[Naki]

Thanks jankees

[jankees]

you're welcome!

and there are so many fun NZ schemes, here's an old one:

[Ian Warren]

Looking good JK , just discussing this one with a few member few weeks back

[AdrianPetford]

Another winner Jan Kees, great stuff!

Very interested in this as my initials are AEC! If I ever own a plane I would try to get the registration G-AECP for it (actually used for a BAC drone in the 1930s, now de-registered). This is the Kiwi equivalent...


Ade

[lowglow]

QUOTE (jankees @ Oct 2 2012,12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

you're welcome!

and there are so many fun NZ schemes, here's an old one:

Ahh Mercury the first of Cook Straight Airways Rapide's.
I have done a lot of research on this one lately as Ian said there has been some discusion on this subject lately.
I have started this repaint but due to lack of time and also due to learning how to do a repaint I have only got as far as the basic background color so it is great to see that you have done this aircraft.
I hope that you don't think that I am being picky but I do see some things that are not quite correct. I am only pointing them out as I would love to see this one done correctly and from what I have seen you are the man for the job.
Most of the photographs of the Cook Straight aircraft are in Black and white and everyone that you look at seems a bit different but it is only an illusion so I spent some time researching this.
The ZK-AEC is infact the same blue as the stripe and has a white pinstripe around the outside of the letters this also goes for the dash between the letters they are also just a wee bit big.
The blue stripe along the side of the fuse and narcelles sits on the black so has a black strip below the blue. I also see that you have a white stripe down the side of the fuse and looking at the photos I have, I can see why, but it does not excist and is infact light reflecting of the top of a raised stringer along the side of the fuse.
The black and blue infront of the windshield is also straighter not so curved and infact has a silver gap between the light and the black strip below the blue stripe the windshield frame is also silver not black the only other thing I see is that the black section on the base of the horizontal stab is not as high as you have shown it about half the height the base of the curve almost touches the horizontal stab.
The ZK-AEC on the top of the top wing is also blue with white outline, here is were it gets tricky there seems to be some variation of the ZK-AEC on the ouderside of the bottom wing some photos show it in black but some also show it in the blue and white it is also a little larger in height of the letters stretch right out to the leading and trailing edges of the wings
As I have said I really hope you don't think I am being picky but I am very excited to see you doing the Cook Straight Airways paints I only collect aircraft for the flight sim that is related to NZ and that is somehow tied to the Marlborough region hence the interest in the CSA Rapides

[Ian Warren]

Chris .. all your research , JanKees recent .. talk about bringing 1930s history back to life

[lowglow]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Oct 2 2012,8:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Chris .. all your research , JanKees recent .. talk about bringing 1930s history back to life

Aviation history just facinates me I have been reading every book I can get my hands on lately relating to aviation history in the top of the south I even recently visited the site that the first aircraft crossing the Cook Straights departed from and took photographs I am off to Nelson just to check out similar sites over there and have also spent alot of time on Google earth tracking down historic sites in the region.
Last year my youngest daughter had to design a website for ICT that related to NZ history she asked me what subject I thought she should pick, I suggested to her that it should be on Richard Pearse she researched it all and made a great job of compiling a website on Richard Pearse I read everything she did I even discovered that He lived within walking distance of my daughters house in Woolstone, I went to the house for a look and even went and checked out the empty section of John street were he lived in a shack made from cardboard and canvas.
Many years ago I went to MOTA and had a good look around, now I just want to go back to look at the convertiplane and the Sunderland. I think I have gone history mad

It could be something to do with the fibre glass fumes from the 1938 Radio controled Swoose that I am restoring in the work shop at the moment

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (lowglow @ Oct 2 2012,9:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Sunderland. I think I have gone history mad
It could be something to do with the fibre glass fumes from the 1938 Radio controled Swoose that I am restoring in the work shop at the moment

It don't help from what is posted and stopping here ... fibre glass fumes nah .. .. get back to ya workshop i'm sure its people like you causing all this wantabe a KIWI ... Yeah .. we just have so much to offer .. course you may have to change , guess another aeroplane ... maybe the DH-60

[lowglow]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Oct 2 2012,9:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It don't help from what is posted and stopping here ... fibre glass fumes nah .. .. get back to ya workshop i'm sure its people like you causing all this wantabe a KIWI ... Yeah .. we just have so much to offer .. course you may have to change , guess another aeroplane ... maybe the DH-60

Don't put ideas in my head

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (lowglow @ Oct 2 2012,10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Don't put ideas in my head

Crikey ... I am your worst nightmare .... Chuckle .. boom , Dang model aeroplane motors , ... Shhh next we'd Naki in on the convo

[jankees]

lowglow,

no worries, I like people that are picky. I fear that you are not completely correct however, I think this this aircraft had different paintschemes during its time with Cook Strait Airways. What I painted in the end is a bit of a mix that I think looked best.


shows that the letters of the registration are lighter than the stripe, so I assumed they are white. I never noticed the thin black stripe below the blue line, so did not do that. I added an outline to the letters to make them better visible, pure white did not make them stand out enough on the underside I felt. I admit that I made a mistake in the nose, and I now also see that the windows should have had an outline too. Strange how you can miss things completely sometimes.


I also had this pic, my main source, and here too I felt the registration was lighter than the blue line, so again I felt white was better.
Also note the registration on top, very light, no outline, so I left that white as well.
BTW, there is no white line in my paint, that is the reflection on the ridge on the fuselage.

Then there was this pic:

which shows AEC being painted. Here you have relatively dark letter in the same color as the stripe and with a white outline, which was previously not there. Also, here I saw the black line below the blue stripes. In the end, I choose to paint the other scheme, and was thinking of applying the second scheme to one of the other Cook Strait birds, ZK-AGT 'Neptune' for example. That has blue letters above and below the wings, with dark outlines I think. I saw no dark letters below the wings in the first pic, so I left them white, as above.
I searched for the book 'Strait Across', but could not find it. Do you have it and does it show any better pics?

and while we are talking about Rapides, anybody know anything of the colors of this one? White with red stripe?

[lowglow]

Hi Jankees
Yes I agree with you that the letters do look whit in the first image and darker in the second I have all of those photos if you look very carefully at the base of the A & E on the first photo you can just make out the out line I am convinced that it is all light trickery after reading the history of these aircraft and realising that the airline was only around for a short period of time I am sure that the fuse did not recieve any different scemes but the lower wing is a different story hence me haveing the blue and white pics and the black for the letters on the under side of the wing. I also have a slightly clearer color pic the same as the one you have posted and you can see the slight blueish ting to the letters on the fuse in places. I cam to the conclusion that light can play tricks especilly in black and white photos.

[lowglow]

As for Union Airways ZK-AKS Grey Fuse and red stripe I have a good clear pic of the nose of one of there other rapides I will post tonight after work

[Olderndirt]

Not to sound too whiny and snivelly but I haven't been able to download the 'correction' - file Not Found. I'd hate to be the only one out of uniform.

[lowglow]

He is a good example of light trickery in Black and white Check out the A & then the E we know that they are actually the same blue with the white outline but they look to be different colors in this photo

[lowglow]

Here is the color sceme on Zk-AKS this is pre NAC days

[dbcunnz]

Very sad to see the wreckage of VH-UXG shown on the Australian channel 7 news tonight.
Went missing on Monday with 6 POB found this afternoon totally wrecked no survivors.

[lowglow]

QUOTE (dbcunnz @ Oct 3 2012,9:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Very sad to see the wreckage of VH-UXG shown on the Australian channel 7 news tonight.
Went missing on Monday with 6 POB found this afternoon totally wrecked no survivors.

Funny I was just looking at a picture of this same aircraft what a shame

[Ian Warren]

Look at the types , wood - fabric , lucky they found wreckage of VH-UXG , so many have disappeared - Without a Trace !

[jankees]

OK, I've been back to the drawing board / painting shed, is this better?