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by **deeknow** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:54 pm

Nick from Angle-of-Attack (training provider partner with PMDG) gives a nicely detailed video tour of the VC in the new PMDG 737-NG, get the credit cards ready lads, this looks AMAZING...
http://www.flyaoamedia.com/aoa/nicks-737ng...ckpit-thoughts/

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:06 am

Looks Snazzy , but also looking forward to the CS737/100/200 series

by **Adamski** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:51 am

deeknow wrote:
QUOTE (deeknow @ Jul 22 2011,11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nick from Angle-of-Attack (training provider partner with PMDG) gives a nicely detailed video tour of the VC in the new PMDG 737-NG, get the credit cards ready lads, this looks AMAZING...
http://www.flyaoamedia.com/aoa/nicks-737ng...ckpit-thoughts/

I just sat through them both. They really are *totally incredible*. I can't imagine how many thousands of man hours went into this!

Any ideas on release date and pricing yet?

by **happytraveller** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:12 pm

If I remember rightly, the PMDG 737 comes with a 3500 page manual. That alone would stop me buying it, just far too detailed and too complex for a simpleton like me to manage. I just do not have the time and patience to learn all the systems on such a detailed aircraft. Plus I want an aircraft that I can get up into the air in about 10 minutes, rather than the 45+ minutes that a 737 start up and FMC programming would take.

Very nice, but I will stick with the GA. There will be some who will love it, but not for me.

smooth landings.

by **Splitpin** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:16 pm

amazing stuff...captainsim on steriods

Im a bit like you HT...crtl E and lets get going...but sometimes its nice to flick all the switches and push the buttons....and this just stunning .

Having dinner with a couple of Boeing drivers and the girls on sunday night, so I'll run those by them and get some feedback...before the wine is opened

Great post, thanks deeknow

by **Bazza** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:17 pm

Yes, thanks for that....just an indication of how far things have gone since the early stick drawings o0f the 90's.

by **deeknow** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:56 pm

Hey HT, yeah the 3500 page manual/s wont be free either, retail price $330us by the looks:
http://www.precisionmanuals.com/ProductCar...p;idcategory=20

Despite the complexity, I'd say if you have a familiarity with well modelled boeing cockpits that are avail already (Wilco73, CS, PMDG, iFly etc) then you wont have any trouble getting the PMDG up and running without having to much additional reading. Seems more that if you want to take the time to fiddle and simulate failures etc then you can, but you should be able to do the basic flows and get in the air. Anyone know if there's a "Realism" setting in the NGX to help there?

by **husker** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:01 pm

The 3500 page manual set in PDF form will come with the aircraft (i.e. 'free') - they are the actual Beoing manuals. Will also come with PMDG authored tutorials to get started....

by **deeknow** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:36 pm

husker wrote:
QUOTE (husker @ Jul 23 2011,5:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The 3500 page manual set in PDF form will come with the aircraft (i.e. 'free') - they are the actual Beoing manuals. Will also come with PMDG authored tutorials to get started....

Thanks for clarifying that Husker, jeeze good luck reading 3500pages of PDF though

by **AlisterC** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:27 pm

If you ask me (I know you didn't!

) there will be a whole lot of 'set and forget' features on this plane (ie you'll set the night lighting and panel set up as you like it once, and then forget about it)
Once you are up to speed with a 737 it certainly isn't 45 minutes to get one up and running. They are fairly simple compared to earlier models of 737. Flight plans will likely still be able to be imported if in the right format to help save time. I'm sure you will still be able to load the plane with the engines running too.
Many of the 'amazing' features on this plane are quite simply things you're not going to use all the time. Things like the F1 ATR having a flushing toilet, who out there has the plane and actually uses that? PMDG have gone to great trouble to get it as accurate as the real plane on many features, but to be honest some seem a little pointless at times

(don't get me wrong, I love what they've done! It's going to be a great plane)

by **Adamski** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:02 pm

It's funny, all this ... as I'm usually a real button pusher. This one (which I'll find hard to resist) is knob-twiddling-nirvana - but will it be "a bridge too far" - even for me?

I also have to ask myself "what's the point" of so much detail. Am I going to buy a [real] 737NG for my private airline? Am I training to be a real airline pilot? Of course not, but we all like to dream - and I often wonder whether I could have "made the grade" going down the CPL/ATPL route all those years ago instead of settling for earth-bound graphics.

Similarly, how many of us have climbed into our virtual Spitfires and imagined changing the course of history (ie. by losing the Battle of Britain

)?

The amazing thing is (though we have to see if it will actually perform on your average PC) that FSX has the capacity for pure "basic" fun - with Heidi and the Cub - as well as being able to perform what looks like almost full-blown ATPL training material.

Being a bit of a nerd - and having a complete book case of web/databasing manuals to prove it - the prospect of a 3500pp manual fills me with glee! Maybe I should get out more

Whatever you say, it's a simply *awesome* achievement - technically and graphically. Hats off to them.

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:06 pm

Alister , Ill be the first to plonk one into Real Nelson

, I simply love PMDG for the liners of the skies , and it will be interesting to see the the livery,s that come with it

Edit : Come on board Adam , you Captain and myself First officer , sure we can get a point A to B in a MP.

by **Splitpin** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:45 pm

" the prospect of a 3500pp manual fills me with glee! " not just you braguy....i love manuals

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:42 pm

In that case Marty , get Adam on board , you can sit in/for, with the manual for the check flight

by **Bazza** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:32 am

I seem to have a large hit on my bandwidth yesterday (about 2 Gig) which I can only put down to watching this video ......

Has anyone else noticed this.....?

I'm wondering if I have a problem somewhere.

by **deeknow** » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:50 am

Bazza wrote:
QUOTE (Bazza @ Jul 24 2011,9:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I seem to have a large hit on my bandwidth yesterday (about 2 Gig) which I can only put down to watching this video ......

Bazaa, there is a lower-res copy to save on bandwidth, toggle the 'HD' button on the bottom right if you watch any other AoA vids.
I signed up for the AoA aviator90 training a few months back and ate my cap pretty quickly till I noticed that

by **Chairman** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:41 am

Bazza - I downloaded the video, it is just over a gig so yes that will be the main culprit ...

Alister - Ryan said in a post on the PMDG forum that the procedures in one of the tutorials he is writing will get people into the air in about 5 minutes on any flight provided they load the plane on the runway with engines running, so certainly there will be a right way and also an easy way

by **Ian Warren** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:12 am

If you have the original PMDG 737 for 2004 may give you the chance to try some features , but i guess this package will really be the Bee,z Knee,z .

by **happytraveller** » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:49 am

AlisterC wrote:
QUOTE (AlisterC @ Jul 28 2011,7:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you ask me (I know you didn't! ) there will be a whole lot of 'set and forget' features on this plane (ie you'll set the night lighting and panel set up as you like it once, and then forget about it)
Once you are up to speed with a 737 it certainly isn't 45 minutes to get one up and running. They are fairly simple compared to earlier models of 737. Flight plans will likely still be able to be imported if in the right format to help save time. I'm sure you will still be able to load the plane with the engines running too.
Many of the 'amazing' features on this plane are quite simply things you're not going to use all the time. Things like the F1 ATR having a flushing toilet, who out there has the plane and actually uses that? PMDG have gone to great trouble to get it as accurate as the real plane on many features, but to be honest some seem a little pointless at times
(don't get me wrong, I love what they've done! It's going to be a great plane)

I flush the toilet every time!!!

Smooth landings.

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VC tour of the PMDG 737-NG

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