PPL and CPL

[HercFeend]

Thanks Andy

Oh now let me see......

I achieved my JAR PPL with 60.38 hrs TT and arrived in the Land of the Long White Cloud with a sum total of 68.04 hrs.

I now have a balmy 251 hrs TT of which 108.20 is PIC.


Congrats Syncop8r, you always remember your first!

XC flight test is pretty crusey. Remember the 7Ps and don't expect to get anywhere near your planned destination. I planned to Tekapo, called them to let them know i was coming and everything - ended up in Timaru!!!!!! The main and not that big a criticism I received was not using all the navigation equipment available to me in the glass Warrior........... Grrrrr I thought the idea was to navigate and prove you could navigate old scoool Good luck, not that you'll need it of course.

[ardypilot]

I've also got my CPL cross country flight test this week- does anyone else have tips further to the previous posts?

I'm expecting a diversion, lost procedures, EFATO, FLWOP and an overhead rejoin at an unfamiler airdrome. Any tips?

[chopper_nut]

Hint... Dont #### it up.

[pilotgallagher01]

About time Andrew lol...

Just make sure you fly the plane first, nothing worse that trying to calculate stuff on your lap when your plane is all over the freakn place. .. ur doing it in a 172? so you got plenty room to space s**t out, I did mine in a 152 since I did most of my training in that and was quite tight for space, but I managed!!

Apart from that just remember basic things like making fluent radio calls and nice over head rejoins, basic things like that mate.

Sure you will be fine bro!

[towerguy]

C172 or c152 ?????

I did mine in Australia back in the - long time ago now - the minimum aircraft specification for a CPL flight test was a C182 retractible.
Aircraft had to be constant speed, retractible undercarriage, and 180HP minimum.

Biggest tip would be - Listen! Listen to what the examiner asks you to do - think about it - think about whether you are allowed to do that - then do what he asks, not what you think he asks.
My examiner made the whole trip an exercise as if he was a client doing a railway survey and wanted to go and look at various places. Some were easy and others were right under the main approach path into Brisbane at a busy time. Also the usual diverts and instead of a total FLWOP I got an intermittent rough running engine with gradually failing systems along the way to see when I would eventually pull the plug and head back. Total failure on final.

Second tip - wear a good deodorant!

good luck
cheers

[ardypilot]

Was meant to have my X country test last Wednesday but the plane I was booked in had to go into maintenance so it was rescheduled for this arvo. Was given the route AR-HN-TO-RO-TH-AR, but got diverted AR-MA-TO-RO-TH-AR, but midway to Thames, the instructor decided we should just head back to Ardy due to the 20 knot headwind that had out ground speed down to about 90 knots or so.

My altitude holding was the main thing I was worried about, with an allowance of +/- 100 feet from the assigned altitudes you'd given for each leg, however even with a fair bit of turbulence, it worked out ok. Had to do a go around at Matamata off a bungled glide approach, and once again at Tokoroa with an intense crosswind- but I didn't bust any airspace or break any other rules so it was all good. Had a FLWOP on the Hauraki plains en route, easy paddock selection with a westerly wind, then on climb out from that, an EFATO. Again, plenty of options.

All in all, was happy with how the flight went, and so was the B-cat. In the debrief he just showed me how I could have fixed my Glide Approach first time, but it was still as pass, so

[Syncop8r]

WELL DONE!

[gojozoom]

Good progress guys! Congrats!

And to add my humble achievement too, just passed Human Factors, only 2 more theory exams to go....and lots of flying hours...

Good luck for all other wannabe's too!

[H500Fan]

QUOTE (gojozoom @ Jan 25 2011, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Good progress guys! Congrats!

And to add my humble achievement too, just passed Human Factors, only 2 more theory exams to go....and lots of flying hours...

Good luck for all other wannabe's too!

weldone on passing it, I'm up for a double whammy of PPL and CPL Human Factors exams soon, how did you find it? Any tips

[pacblue]

QUOTE (H500Fan @ Jan 25 2011, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

weldone on passing it, I'm up for a double whammy of PPL and CPL Human Factors exams soon, how did you find it? Any tips

Not a hell of a difference between the 2, it is highly advisable if CPL is the ultimate goal, that you do the same subject for both PPL & CPL one after the other, just remember that if your using Ross Ewing's(sp) book for study, i think he states the bottle to throttle is only 10 hours (maybe it was only in his old editons but ASL want you to say 12rs) Alot of people get tripped up on that one. or atleast used to.. best of luck and let us know how you get on.

[H500Fan]

QUOTE (pacblue @ Jan 27 2011, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Not a hell of a difference between the 2, it is highly advisable if CPL is the ultimate goal, that you do the same subject for both PPL & CPL one after the other, just remember that if your using Ross Ewing's(sp) book for study, i think he states the bottle to throttle is only 10 hours (maybe it was only in his old editons but ASL want you to say 12rs) Alot of people get tripped up on that one. or atleast used to.. best of luck and let us know how you get on.

thanks for the advice, I'm going to try and do them on the same day if not very close. I've been studying to the CPL syllabus so hopefully the PPL exam won't be too much trouble, think its 25 questions vs 40 for the CPL

[Syncop8r]

I was sat CPL Human Factors in the morning and PPL Human Factors in the afternoon. I wonder what would have happened if I passed the CPL exam then failed the PPL exam?

My KDRs for the PPL one include "Explain the basic elements and features of the Reason Model" and "Explain the importance of direction of of movement in control design".

[H500Fan]

so whats a typical question? what am I up against, multi choice or word for word written answers? Not much info on the ASL website...

[pacblue]

QUOTE (H500Fan @ Feb 2 2011, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

so whats a typical question? what am I up against, multi choice or word for word written answers? Not much info on the ASL website...

For the most part it is multi choice, some answers in some of the I.F exams required a typed answer.

[pilotgallagher01]

All multi choice questions, yet if you get some simple question wrong you end up with a KDR like this one, which is a #### ##### to answer!

34.22.6 Outline the anatomy and physiology of the motion, orientation and gravitational sensory organs, including:
(a) The semi-circular canals
(b) Vestibular sac/tubes

[H500Fan]

Haven't got results for my PPL but CPL went well, got 93% which I was pleased with. Couple of KDR's to look at but nothing major. Now onto Aircraft Tech...

[Olderndirt]

This is all fascinating reading for one who got his last rating in 1972. Before I lost my medical, I was US certified COM/SELS/MEL/Instrument and for 16 years CFI/ASEL/Instrument. 5200+hours over 35 years, almost all in Alaska - a fun life .

[huff3r]

So I'm on to my PPL theory subjects now... starting with FRTO on Tuesday . Seems to be fairly straight forward so far, but the fact I've only been learning for 2 days has me stressing a little!

[benwynn]

FRTO is by far the easiest exam. A lot of it is common sense, and even more can be easily learned by flying rather than just reading the book. Certainly becomes trickier from then on in.

[victor_alpha_charlie]

QUOTE (huff3r @ Jun 9 2011,7:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

So I'm on to my PPL theory subjects now... starting with FRTO on Tuesday . Seems to be fairly straight forward so far, but the fact I've only been learning for 2 days has me stressing a little!

If it's any consolation I studied for one day and got 88% - you'll be fine