Classics Hangar FW-190, The Late Variants

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Postby scrubcutter » Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:00 pm

Some pics of the FW-190 with correct tail markings on it. I have read some negative stuff about this add-on on some sites, but after a bit of installation twaeking, it is a very good aircraft, and worthy of the award it got from Avsim! thumbup1.gif












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Postby K5054NZ » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:57 am

Looks quite nice, will; have to sort a repaint once Murray Miers' Flug Werk reproduction arrives at Omaka!

Late variants - is a Dora included?
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Postby FlyingKiwi » Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:22 pm

I have the early variants package, and I'm pretty happy with it - the VC in particular is very good.
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Postby Alfashark » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:57 pm

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Looks quite nice, will; have to sort a repaint once Murray Miers' Flug Werk reproduction arrives at Omaka!

Late variants - is a Dora included?


Negative... Just the late A's

I'd call it an average model, certainly not bottom shelf though - but I've been spoiled by years with the WoP 190 A-D's
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Postby scrubcutter » Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:04 pm

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Negative... Just the late A's

I'd call it an average model, certainly not bottom shelf though - but I've been spoiled by years with the WoP 190 A-D's

I rate it above average, however I haven't got the WoP version to compare it to. I do have the WoP 2 P-51/P-47/BF-109E, and if they are of a comparable standard then I would say that they are definately as good for flight modelling although they are a bit dated graphics-wise. That is including the patch to update them to native FSX. That said, the CH FW190 variants have pretty average external paint jobs...for now!
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Postby Alfashark » Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:33 pm

True enough smile.gif

I did find the CH ones feel a bit "dead" and quite tame compared to the WoP model... Probably not a bad thing for MP though.

WoP/A2A have stated that they will do a "WoP3" FSX native 190 in the future which I'm hanging out for drool.gif
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Postby jankees » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:18 am

scrubcutter wrote:
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That said, the CH FW190 variants have pretty average external paint jobs...for now!


If I look at some of your pics, especially #1 and #6, the textures look far too blurry. This could be a mipmap problem.
If you open them in DXTbmp, check if the mipmaps are ON (v in box on the right side of the screen). You need to save them with mipmaps OFF, and they will look much better.
I know the early versions had this problem too.
Last pic looks sharp though, so it may be a problem of just a few textures.
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Postby scrubcutter » Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:20 am

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If I look at some of your pics, especially #1 and #6, the textures look far too blurry. This could be a mipmap problem.
If you open them in DXTbmp, check if the mipmaps are ON (v in box on the right side of the screen). You need to save them with mipmaps OFF, and they will look much better.
I know the early versions had this problem too.
Last pic looks sharp though, so it may be a problem of just a few textures.

Cool, thanks for that! I will have a look at it a bit later on. I had enough trouble with the installer for this as it wouldn't let me alter the directory to install into (I run FSX off a different drivve to my OS). Still learning... smile.gif
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Postby scrubcutter » Sat May 01, 2010 9:15 pm

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Cool, thanks for that! I will have a look at it a bit later on. I had enough trouble with the installer for this as it wouldn't let me alter the directory to install into (I run FSX off a different drivve to my OS). Still learning... smile.gif

OK, so it was definately a mips problem with the paintjob. Sort of fixed, but still pretty buggy. Not a fan of the amount of work to get this add-on working properly, and I still don't think the cockpit resolution is as good as it should be, even though I have it on high setting. A couple more screens to show what I am getting out for prospective buyers...

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Postby Ian Warren » Sat May 01, 2010 9:48 pm

Hey Scrub's , it would be interesting to compare this 190 to the P47 , i don,t have it yet but would also make for some superb screens mixing and a matching in multiplay. cool.gif
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Postby scrubcutter » Sat May 01, 2010 10:16 pm

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Hey Scrub's , it would be interesting to compare this 190 to the P47 , i don,t have it yet but would also make for some superb screens mixing and a matching in multiplay. cool.gif

Yeah, sounds good mate. I'm having some technical difficulties with multiplayer at the moment, I suspect I stuffed up something when I was playing around with setting up my audio in teamspeak. The 190 seems to have reasonably accurate FM, but I've never flown the real thing, so not really qualified to comment! wink.gif Let me know when you get it, I have the old WOP2 version, but I've blown the budget with a few hangar aquisitions icon_redface.gif so the Accusim P-47 is off the cards for now. Pity Accusim doesn't extend to weapon ballistics, a showdown with a couple of b-17s would be interesting! smiliz2.png

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Postby Mathias » Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:50 pm

Hey everyone, and sorry for digging out this old thread again.
Please note that the Fw190 uses 2048x2048 pixel textures, hence it requires a little edit to the FSX.cfg as described in depth in the handbook.
There is really no need to strip the mips off the textures. These are a feature not a bug.
So if you think the textures look "average" or blurry first check the handbook and make sure your FSX.cfg is adjusted accordingly.
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Postby Naki » Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:11 am

Welcome to NZFF Mathias......looking forward to seeing your future aircaft such as the Me-108.

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Postby Ian Warren » Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:51 am

biggrin.gif "Welcome to NZFF Mathias......looking forward to seeing your future aircraft such as" but the Me-110 is the one i want ! cool.gif
This September is the Classic Hangers special .. i was to get it yesterday , but this is a good excuse to get it now
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Postby Jamessx » Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:14 am

Nice Pictures Man Keep Them Coming biggrin.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:22 am

The sound package with this one , oh boy , this one type i have not heard but sure pleasing to the ears in FSX






No FW190 or B17 was harmed in this multiplay with KC taken the 17
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Postby scrubcutter » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:50 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
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The sound package with this one , oh boy , this one type i have not heard but sure pleasing to the ears in FSX
No FW190 or B17 was harmed in this multiplay with KC taken the 17
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Hey Ian, howzit? Hope your sim gear survived natures own force feedback! If you have the late variants then you will want this link http://www.simviation.com/simviation/index...=68&page=22 , it will give you the correct tail markings winkyy.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:26 pm

Scrubs , Cheers for the link , pleased to spend a few dollars , only for this month , both early and late , going to be ideal for many screens smile.gif
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Postby Mathias » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:20 am

Thanks for the welcome, guys!

The historically correct tail markings for both the early and late variants can be found at http://www.italianwings.it/ btw.

Oh, since you asked, jamessx, here's some unedited cockpit shots, showing some similar angles for each the A-2, A-5 and A-9.

















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Postby Ian Warren » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:18 pm

Thanx for the link Mathias , i stopped PCs last night and pulled a Video , yes VHS Our (Spilitpin) Marty gave to me , best break , sat back and watched the history on the FW190 , cnat read much at the mo , just soaked it in . smile.gif
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