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by **pilotgallagher01** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:15 pm

Doing PPL Air Tech Exam Tomorow
Pretty condident with everything
Any Advice that any has ??

by **benwynn** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:56 pm

Use correct grammar and, if possible, real words.

by **travnz** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:55 am

Real smooth benwynn, real smooth!
Hope all goes well pilotgallagher01 if your confident your will do fine!

by **pilotgallagher01** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:52 pm

Cheers mate, Think I did pretty good. I know I f***** up the recovery of a spin question.
It asked what your first response would be and I selected "Full Opposite Rudder to the spin" when I now realise I should have chosen "Close Throttle"
Ah well I think I only got 1-2 questions wrong.

by **ardypilot** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:19 pm

Not sure how it works for PPL exams, but all the CPL results go online as soon as the last person finishes.

If you did this on the computer, you should be able to check your results on www.aviation.co.nz now.

by **HardCorePawn** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:45 am

PPLs are still paper based

by **Bagnew** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:48 pm

I'm thinking of taking a year (or so) to do PPL/CPL after Year 13 before heading to Uni to do a BMus. Can anyone tell me an estimate on how long it would take one to obtain a PPL (And a CPL, but I'm not sure if I'd want to do that, I'm sure I'd be perfectly happy with a PPL)

Cheers

Brendan

Edit: Oh, I'm 14, BTW, in year 10
Edit 2: Ardmore is the most convenient Flight School that I know of (My cousin learnt there, and earned his PPL Earlier this year)

by **ZKTOM** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:27 pm

Essentially the more money you spend on flying the quicker you'd get your PPL/CPL. Would depend how many times per week you went up as well.

by **Bagnew** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:29 pm

Oh, OK, Cheers

by **benwynn** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:35 pm

If your not wanting to pursue flying as a career, no point in a CPL. If you were just going to do a PPL, I'd probably recommend starting your degree, and just doing it part time. It still wouldnt take too long, 3 months maybe.

by **ZKTOM** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:40 pm

And if you're only Year 10 you've got a few years ahead yet so why not rack up a few hours cos they all count. And when you hit 16 you're solo.

by **Bagnew** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:48 pm

Could someone lay out the structure of a PPL for me?
As I understand it at this point, it's 3 weeks of full-time theory (and a bunch of exams), and just piling up the hours, with instructor until you're ready to go solo, and when your instructor feels that you're ready, you go for the flying test.
I'm quite aware that the above is probably rather inaccurate, so if someone could clear it up, 'twould be appreciated

by **CHCalfonzo** » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:02 pm

I did night classes for my theory papers, probably a much easier way of doing them. They are pretty straight forward, not much work at all.

As for flying, you can do it as fast or slow as you like, within reason. The longer you spread it out the more hours you will have to do most probably, practice is important. You start in the circuit and doing basic controls etc. with an instructor before going solo and consolidating in the circuit for a while. After that you move on to other things like stalls and FLWOP etc., practicing them first with your instructor then doing some solo consolidation again until they think your ready for the test. Normally its about 50-60 hrs until you sit the test, depending on how quickly you catch on.

by **ardypilot** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:31 am

Bagnew wrote:
QUOTE (Bagnew @ Aug 3 2009, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Edit 2: Ardmore is the most convenient Flight School that I know of (My cousin learnt there, and earned his PPL Earlier this year)

Does your cousin have the same initials as you? I saw a B. Agnew on the booking sheet at Ardmore Flying School today...

by **HardCorePawn** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:39 am

You can start with this PPL Training Syllabus breakdown (Excel Spreadsheet)...

It is a little out of date... as they have now added a "slow flying" component to the syllabus, so you'll probably need to allow another hour or 2... But gives you a rough lesson plan and some idea of how you would progress through to a flight test.

The legal minimum is 50hrs (40hrs for a restricted ie. no cross countries) with a minimum of 15 Dual and 15 Solo... most people take around 55-60hours to complete a PPL. As for how long it will take you... Well, if you could go flying for 3hours a day, 7 days a week... it'll take you 3 weeks!! Of course, you'll need:

A. lots of free time
B. lots of good weather
C. lots of $$$$$

However, if you were to do a flight a week, you could reasonably expect to finish a PPL in under a year (weather permitting).

You'll probably find the biggest issue will be cost... I've just updated the PPL Cost Overview for the flying club I'm at... you're looking at around ~$12,802 for a PPL these days +/- a little bit depending on actual hours flown etc... Please bear in mind that is in a Cessna152... at AFC to do it in a 4 seater you'd need to add another ~$2,475 (ie. ~$15,300)

That includes, ground course + theory books, exams, medical, aips/maps, nav equipment etc... <insert usual disclaimer about prices being indicative only & subject to change etc>

My advice at this point would be to go an invest in a Class2 medical... that will at least give you the peace of mind of knowing that you can actually get one and will therefore be able to get a PPL. It'll be around $200-$250ish, assuming you dont need to fork out for hearing and/or eye specialists... but will save you a lot of grief getting it done first, rather than spending a couple of thousand on flying and then finding out you cannot get one!

Personally, I would hold off on the flying for now, maybe do a trial flight somewhere to see if flying really is your thing, as you cannot solo until you're 16... and flying really is a 'currency' thing... if you don't fly regularly (especially when first learning)... you tend to forget things and find you spend more time doing "revision"... which means more hours, which means more $$$$

One last thing... I'm not sure what AFS's policies on PPL's is... you'd need to ask Trolley... but I got the impression they were more of a commercial training establishment, being a flying 'school' rather than an aero/flying 'club'... and more focussed on doing integrated CPL courses etc...

by **Bagnew** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:06 pm

Yeah, Trolly, my cousin's Ben Agnew.

I'll probably try and get to Ardmore to get some info at some point.

by **Daniel** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:09 pm

If I were you I would start doing some lessons as get a few hours. Then I would sit some of the exams and get some of them out of the way. Gives you less to worry about later on with your training.

I started when I was 13 and am now 15 and have just under 30 hours. I am going solo in 5 weeks on my birthday.

by **Bagnew** » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:10 pm

Thanks for all the advice everyone! I'll probably head out to Ardmore and get some Info, and maybe book a trial flight, and then sort things out from there

by **ardypilot** » Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:52 am

QUOTE

One last thing... I'm not sure what AFS's policies on PPL's is... you'd need to ask Trolley... but I got the impression they were more of a commercial training establishment, being a flying 'school' rather than an aero/flying 'club'... and more focussed on doing integrated CPL courses etc...[/quote]
The CFI will try his hardest to pursuade you to do the full course (more money in the bank for him), but out of my class of 20 something, only 2 guys dropped out after the PPL theory and exams. Not sure if they went on to flying as I havn't seem them around, but I guess it's still an option. Most guys aiming just for a PPL come in during the evenings and weekends for classes which gives them plenty of time to self study.

QUOTE

Yeah, Trolly, my cousin's Ben Agnew.[/quote]
Ah ok, small world. He flies the same plane as me!

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