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Postby Chairman » Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:02 pm

Oh dear, poor car 918.

Top driver, top car, seventh fastest time through the first stage of day 2 in spite of the fog. Niceley done, except ...

A lot of Targa stages start with 50km/h speed ("HIS") zones to lower the overall average speed of the stage. The ends of these zones are well marked with cones, signs, vehicles, marshalls, etc etc. Most HIS zones are 500 metres long but because this stage had long straights it started with a 1000 metre zone. For whatever reason car 918 accelerated after only 500 metres, then they realised their mistake and threw out the anchors but by then one of our radar guns had got them. police.gif

The supplementary regs for Targa Rotorua give the penalty for speeding in an HIS zone as 1 minute per km/h over the limit. Most people only break it by 5 km/h or so and cop a 5 minute penalty, which they can make back with luck and a tail wind.

Car 918 was clocked at just over 100 km/h over the limit, and was given a 100 minute penalty.

Based purely on stage times they would have come 8th in the modern competiton, but with all the luck in the world you're not going to make up 1 hr 40 mins and they came in 46th.

Out of 46.

Ouch !

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Postby h290master » Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:27 am

wasnt 918 a porche? was funny hearing 158km over the radio
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Postby Chairman » Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:50 am

How many times did you make them repeat it to make sure you'd heard it right ? laugh.gif Next time if we get to lay another trap like that I'll be organised enough to have three radios going and I'll be in on the fun as well.

I found some dates for the big Targa in October, let us know if you want to book a seat. Hopefully Mat and Harley will be there, Ashley definitely won't be. The vague plan is that there will be 4 of us travelling in a two berth campervan, overnights will be in holiday camps with two in the camper and two in a basic cabin. Although, the campervan will only have one double bed and the teenagers will trash anywhere they get left alone, so that may not be such a good plan ... On the Friday and Saturday Targa put all the officials into Hutt Park and we have a thank you bbq and drinks on the Friday night.

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This 15th Anniversary Week will have the following itinerary:

Sunday 25th October
Documentation, Briefing, Car show at the Cockroach TelstraClear Events Centre
Manukau City prologue
Overnight Auckland

Monday 26th October (Labour Day)
Nine (9) Special Stages totalling 128km (with 309km of touring)
Lunch Break at Te Awamutu
Overnight Taupo

Tuesday 27th October
Eight (8) Special Stages totalling 187km (with 354km of touring)
Lunch Break at Te Kuiti
Overnight at New Plymouth

Wednesday 28th October
Lunch Break at Whangamomona
Overnight Wanganui

Thursday 29th October
Lunch Break at Taihape
Overnight Palmerston North

Friday 30th October
Lunch Break at Tui Brewery Mangatainoka
Overnight and officials bbq Wellington

Saturday 31st October
Lunch Break at Maidstone Park, Upper Hutt
The Official Finish at Wellington

Sunday 1st November
The long drive home ...[/quote]
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Postby Anthony » Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:31 pm

Wow 100 k over! ohmy.gif
Even worse coming 46th. I imagine that was quite a difference between number 45 and him.
Pity I couldn't be there, sorry Gary. Sounds like I missed a bit.
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Postby Chairman » Tue Jun 23, 2009 12:53 am

No worries, it was quite nice not having to go from Morrinsville to Auckland via Rotorua afterwards biggrin.gif

The gap isn't as big as you would expect - he was only 4min 46sec behind the car in 45th and with the proverbial luck and a tail wind could have improved at least a couple of spots.

His total time was 4hrs 34min so basically he copped more than half his total stage time as a single penalty. I'm told the driver of that car has a reputation for not being shy about letting people know what he thinks. I'm also told that the only people jumping up and down about the penalty were his service crew unsure.gif

I'm also told that there were LOTS of complaints about the numerous penalties I handed out for speed in the HIS on our last stage - I was pinging them as they came around a corner over 400 metres away, then they were crawling past me at 45. Sorry guys, too late ... This was really the first time we've been serious about speed in HIS zones, and the teams have no idea how good the guns are . . .

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Postby Ian Warren » Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:06 am

Gary , I thought the TARGA rally was a fun raiser ? .. a few rules .. but so many , i dont no , dont follow sport at all
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Postby Chairman » Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:53 am

Nar, you're probably thinking of the Variety Club Bash - I think that one is pure fundraising.

Targa is a full on competitive tarmac rally. In fact it's the tarmac rally - anyone know of another tarmac or even gravel rally that's attracted 90 competitors lately ? As well as the 46 cars in the modern category mentioned above there were another 40 results in the classic section, and those 86 are just the ones who finished ... And that was one of Targa's weekend events - the main Targa is 6 days of Auckland-Wellington competition. Given the current climate I'd expect to see somewhere around 150 entries, and I've seen it with over 250 entries before. In fact they had so many entries one year that the national governing body had to change the rules to let them run at 30 second intervals instead of 1 minute, otherwise it would have taken 4 hours to run each stage.

Targa works in with local schools and sports clubs out in the countryside so there is some real cash going directly into country schools and community groups as well as trickle-down from several hundred people arriving in town for a night (150 cars, 2 people in a car, average 2 service crew per car, plus the officials, that's getting on for 700 people needing food and fuel and car parts and accommodation). The locals provide groups of marshalls in return for a donation, country schools are often used as service parks, and if the timing is right the schools can put on breakfasts / lunches which the teams and their crews and any passing officials are encouraged to take advantage of. At the end of the day there is a compulsory car wash in whatever town the rally is overnighting, these are generally done by schools / scouts.

Targa's official charity is CureKids, not sure how it works but since Targa started in 2002 they've raised over $400,000 for CureKids.

Some schools also get to operate Passage Controls where the race cars need to collect a stamp on their timecard to show they were on the correct route, Targa Passage Controls always involve collecting buckets - and they get the officials as well. Filling the ashtray with $2 coins before you leave Auckland is all part of Targa week biggrin.gif The passage controls during school hours are neat, there's always hordes of little kids lined up watching. After school ones are more a community effort, often with the local cops involved.

Last year we (me and Dazza) were doing a bumbreaker touring section from Te Kuiti to New Plymouth, as we rolled through Urenui (I think it was) we were pretty much hypnotised from the road and then suddenly this blue and black THING leapt out onto the road in front of us - it scared the daylights out of me and we gapped it, wasn't until we were past it we spotted the police car and the people in funny hats holding buckets and realised it was the local cop in a gorilla head stopping rally cars at a passage control laugh.gif

Good times. Can't wait for October biggrin.gif

Gary
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Postby Ian Warren » Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:01 am

biggrin.gif sounds like ya have a lotta fun , pitty wasnt an air race ohmy.gif
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