The Safest Airliners?

[Naki]

Some of the threads here I have got me thinking .......which airlners have never had a fatality in service...not sure I am right but I found these airliners listed elsewhere

VC-10 (I know not many were built)

Airbus A340 (got close when one skidded off the runway in Toronto)

Airbus A380 ( a bit new)

Boeing 777 (got close also when one landed short in the UK)

Tupelov TU-204 (?)

Saab 2000 (?)

Not sure if my facts are quite right ..any others???

[Ian Warren]

Paul , The interesting one , and would have an outstanding record with only 13 in revnue service since 1986 and for the mile/kms CONCORDE ! .... had not been for that fateful crash .... I do wonder if the economic slump of the last few years would have slowed it down ! ... it was for the select few and got to be so regular in Christchurch no one battered an eye lid !

[waka172rg]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Jun 9 2009, 01:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Paul , The interesting one , and would have an outstanding record with only 13 in revnue service since 1986 and for the mile/kms CONCORDE ! .... had not been for that fateful crash .... I do wonder if the economic slump of the last few years would have slowed it down ! ... it was for the select few and got to be so regular in Christchurch no one battered an eye lid !

Ooo I did when i was 13 seen my first concord land and T/O at CHCH the noise blue flame

[Peppermint]

QUOTE (waka172rg @ Jun 9 2009, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Ooo I did when i was 13 seen my first concord land and T/O at CHCH the noise blue flame

NOW you're talking!

[creator2003]

Thats one plane you will find hard to forget ,i seen it about 6pm i think every night flying back in to heathrow about a month or 2 before it was pulled from service, really sad to pull the future away from us due to no fault of its own unless the were expected to pull armor plates under it and know there was cr@p on the runway ....

that plane was a great lost to avaition .....

[greaneyr]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Jun 9 2009, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

it was for the select few and got to be so regular in Christchurch no one battered an eye lid !

Really? When was this Ian? I remember as a child in the 1980s getting excited after hearing a Concorde was coming to NZ and to me at the time, this was a big thing. It seemed like a very unusual thing (a bit like the A380 last year) but then I would have only been 5 or 6 at the time.

Was that before or after the runway was extended? I've got a VFG from 1981 here that shows RWY02/20 as 2442m long - I'd have thought a bit of a tight fit for the Concorde.

[ardypilot]

Didn't an Iberia A340 skid off the end of a runway into a petrol station in Sao Paulo recently?

[Naki]

That was a TAM A320

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (greaneyr @ Jun 9 2009, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Really? When was this Ian? I remember as a child in the 1980s getting excited after hearing a Concorde was coming to NZ and to me at the time, this was a big thing. It seemed like a very unusual thing (a bit like the A380 last year) but then I would have only been 5 or 6 at the time.

Was that before or after the runway was extended? I've got a VFG from 1981 here that shows RWY02/20 as 2442m long - I'd have thought a bit of a tight fit for the Concorde.

On the four seperate occasions i veiwed it across the city after the initial debut , saw it at NZCH heck half dozen, British Airways , one an air France , the amount time hearing it fly out during work , be easy enough to sort out 'log' the visits ... the first visit .. all heck maybe 88 , one 89 visit left NZCH to YSSY only to loose part of its rudder going thru the FL43 for mach2 .. it was landing the at Sydney that tower informed them they only have half a rudder . The 90s regular on the common world tours .. was said half the reason ANZ updated from 748s to the ATR was Conkers PAX awed at the old 748 . Christchurch runway 02/20 had been extend in 83 i recall , not fact but is approx 3.25 kms and believe further increase on both planned .

[FlyingKiwi]

The Iberia A340 incident was a separate runway overrun to the Sao Paulo accident. From memory it was in Quito, Ecuador, and there were no fatalities although the aircraft was written off.

[jastheace]

hey, this got me thinking, you can scratch the VC-10 of the list, there was one that crashed in nigeria, killing all on board and another that crashed in ethopia as well, my research is as follows

Antonov AN-225 (not really an airliner)
Boeing 717
Boeing 777
Dassault Mercure (granted only 12 produced)
Dornier Do-328JET
Embraer ERJ-135
Embraer ERJ-140
Embraer ERJ-145
Embraer ERJ-170
Embraer ERJ-190
Fokker 70
Ilyushin 96
Tupolev 204
SAAB 2000
Saunders ST-27

properly more out there on a side note, the safest airlines i could find are as follows (zero Fatal Accidents since 1970)

american trans air
Hawiian Airlines (i thought thhey did have a fatal accident though)
Jetblue Airlines
Southwest Airlines
Air Jamacia
Allegro Airlines
BWIA West India Airways
Aer Lingus and Aer Lingus Commute
Austrian Airlines
Easyjet
Finnair
Icelandair
Sabena
Virgin Atlantic
Emirates Airlines
Tunisair
EVA Air
Qantas

not 100% conclusive, but covers all the main airlines,

hope it is of some intrest, i certianly learnt a few facts researching it

Jason

[Naki]

Interesting stuff Jase..Embraer does well considering the number of Embraer jets now in use..same goes for the 777 and A340

[Michael]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Jun 9 2009, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Paul , The interesting one , and would have an outstanding record with only 13 in revnue service since 1986 and for the mile/kms CONCORDE ! .... had not been for that fateful crash .... I do wonder if the economic slump of the last few years would have slowed it down ! ... it was for the select few and got to be so regular in Christchurch no one battered an eye lid !

That fateful crash, which was another plane's fault. Poor old Concorde.

[jastheace]

QUOTE (Naki @ Jun 23 2009, 02:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Interesting stuff Jase..Embraer does well considering the number of Embraer jets now in use..same goes for the 777 and A340

it surprised me too, considering some of the areas they are flying in, not the best in the world. one thing did surprise me was the fact at how two boeing types (717 and 777) have not been involved in any fatals, 777 i can understand, was a very close thing with the ba flight, but the 717, updated md design, i guess not a huge number out there. would be intresting to see out of the a/c listed as to how many hours or miles they have traveled per fatal accident, i reckon the 747 series would be getting pretty high.

as far as the concorde was concerned, i think she was going to be put of of service sooner or later, it took a tragic accident to ground it earlier than some would have liked, but given the current climate, i doubt it would be flying today. such a shame