Robin HR200 / Alpha 160

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Postby ctcav8r » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:46 pm

Hi there,
I'm using FSX and have been for a while.
I'm just starting my flying training at Hamilton (CTC)
My aircraft for training is a Robin HR200 / (NZ) Alpha 160
I would love to have this aircraft to practise with in FSX.
I downloaded a FS2004 version (which seems to be the only one around) but the panels don't work.
Reading through other forums this is a common problem and not really one that can be solved.
When I load the aircraft - it doesn't have any panel or gauges at all.

Was wondering if anyone knew of/could help me find an FSX version?
Am very happy to pay for it if it is good quality.

Or is there anyone here that can create one or is in the process of?
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Postby deeknow » Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:40 pm

ctcav8r wrote:
QUOTE (ctcav8r @ Feb 4 2009, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My aircraft for training is a Robin HR200 / (NZ) Alpha 160
I would love to have this aircraft to practise with in FSX.
I downloaded a FS2004 version (which seems to be the only one around) but the panels don't work.


Greetings. I take it you've found the repaint of the Waikato Aero club's ZK-WKF and the photorealistic panel. Coincidentally they're both by Me biggrin.gif I knocked them up for a cobber who's flying out there too.

Sorry but I cant help you with the FSX conversion of the panel as I've only got FS2004. It's most probably one or more of the gauges I've used on the panel. You may be able to edit the panel config to use gauges from other aircraft (ideally standard FSX ones). If you do sort it out let me know coz it would be great to push an updated panel to AVSim.
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Postby creator2003 » Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:33 am

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// This Panel.cfg file created by FS Panel Studio panel editor utility - http://www.fspanelstudio.com
// Built Tuesday, May 31, 2005 at 19:54 FSPS Build:14852

[Window Titles]
Window00=Main
Window01=GPS


[VIEWS]
VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=MAIN,GPS_PANEL

VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=2.000, 0.000, 0.000



//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window00]
file=main.bmp
file_1024=main.bmp
size_mm=1024
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=1
ident=MAIN
window_size= 1.000, 1.000
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 807,519,200,49
gauge01=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 807,569,200,45
gauge02=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 807,400,200,67
gauge03=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 807,467,200,52
gauge04=Cessna172!Clock, 107,445,90,89
gauge05=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 807,613,200,44
gauge06=Cessna!VOR1, 650,399,125,124
gauge07=Cessna!Altimeter, 515,397,130,129
gauge08=Mooney_Bravo!Attitude, 382,396,130,130
gauge09=cessna_182.directional_gyro, 376,529,140,136
gauge10=Mooney_Bravo!CHT, 429,681,83,82
gauge11=Mooney_Bravo!Manifold Pressure, 515,681,83,82
gauge12=Mooney_Bravo!Oil Temperature, 602,681,83,82
gauge13=Cessna208B_XML!suction, 58,699,50,49
gauge14=Mooney_Bravo!Turn Coordinator, 248, 528 ,130,130
gauge15=Cessna!Vacuum_Ampermeter, 688,681,83,82
gauge16=Cessna!Vertical_Speed, 515,529,130,131
gauge17=Cessna!Starter, 290,693,60,60
gauge18=Cessna!Avionics Switch, 224,697,33,52
gauge19=Mooney_Bravo!Landing Lights, 819,319,35,53
gauge20=Mooney_Bravo!Master Alt Bat, 178,697,33,52
gauge21=Mooney_Bravo!Navigation Lights, 905,319,35,53
gauge22=Mooney_Bravo!Strobe Lights, 862,319,35,53
gauge23=Mooney_Bravo!Pitot Heat, 948,319,35,54
gauge24=Cessna172!Whiskey_Compass, 740,201,60
gauge25=Mooney_Bravo!Left Fuel, 774,680,83,83
gauge26=Cessna172!Airspeed, 248,396,130
gauge27=Mooney_Bravo!Altimeter, 376,327,40,40
gauge28=Mooney_Bravo!Cowl Flap Display, 531,327,40,40
gauge29=Mooney_Bravo!Master Caution, 415,327,40,40
gauge30=Mooney_Bravo!Amps, 453,327,40,40
gauge31=Mooney_Bravo!Pitot Heat, 570,327,40,40
gauge32=Cessna182s!Oil_Press_Temp, 492,327,40,40
gauge33=SimIcons!ATC Icon, 31,476,30,30
gauge34=SimIcons!GPS Icon, 30,556,30,30
gauge35=SimIcons!Kneeboard Icon, 30,595,30,30
gauge36=SimIcons!Map Icon, 30,515,30,30
gauge37=MiniPanel!RPM Indicator, 649,528,130,130
gauge38=Cessna172!Thrust_Controls, 95,572,120
gauge39=Cessna!Flaps, 897,692,90,59


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window01]
file=popup.bmp
file_1024=popup.bmp
size_mm=1024
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
window_size= 1.000, 1.000
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=fs9gps!gps_295, 478,413,545,354

[Default View]
X=0
Y=0
SIZE_X=8191
SIZE_Y=3936[/quote]

this is a remap of the gauges to FSX for HR200 on a 2d panel just a simple change to the text in the panel CFG ,,to bad this doesnt have a VC
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Postby ctcav8r » Thu Feb 05, 2009 1:36 pm

creator2003 wrote:
QUOTE (creator2003 @ Feb 5 2009, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
this is a remap of the gauges to FSX for HR200 on a 2d panel just a simple change to the text in the panel CFG ,,to bad this doesnt have a VC



When I first load up the Robin, there is still nothing there - but if I go Views > Instrument Panel > Main - it comes up. However, if I want to look around the cockpit using the hat switch on my stick - the panel stays still but the outside moves around? It did this before when I didn't have any guages as well. **I think I realise now - that I have it in VC which you said it doesn't have**
But even with2D if I look left, right, up, down etc - everything disappears inside the cockpit and it is just outside
Also no cockpit? ie window struts, seats, walls etc. I wish I knew more about FS!
What you have done is great for me to practise engine start ups etc - so thanks heaps!!
Now if there was only a way to get a perfect cockpit! My next few months of training would be much easier :-)

Hope you can find another version (fsx!!!) for the Robin - would make lives very much easier lol.
Let me know if you do.

Deeknow - yep download both of your repaints (panel and repaint).
Would love it if someone could whip one up with a CTC paint job! (Robin/Alpha)
I found one for a Katana.
In fact just to top it off a repaint for the Robin/Alpha and one for the DA42 Twinstar - all my Christmases would come at once!

Can't wait to buy your Hamilton X - Creator2003!
Would love to see screenshots of the CTC facilities and apron(s)! Have you got all of the markings and taxi centre lines for the CTC aprons?
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Postby deeknow » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:27 pm

ctcav8r wrote:
QUOTE (ctcav8r @ Feb 5 2009, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Would love it if someone could whip one up with a CTC paint job! (Robin/Alpha)
I found one for a Katana.
In fact just to top it off a repaint for the Robin/Alpha and one for the DA42 Twinstar - all my Christmases would come at once!


Yeah, I think you'll find the Katana is also a repaint I did, ZK-SFG? Re the CTC Alpha, send me some pics and I'll paint it if you like
There is a Twinstar model about, a payware one from Abacus, apparently FSX compatible:
http://www.abacuspub.com/fsd/catalog/s609.htm
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Postby ctcav8r » Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:42 pm

deeknow wrote:
QUOTE (deeknow @ Feb 5 2009, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I think you'll find the Katana is also a repaint I did, ZK-SFG? Re the CTC Alpha, send me some pics and I'll paint it if you like
There is a Twinstar model about, a payware one from Abacus, apparently FSX compatible:
http://www.abacuspub.com/fsd/catalog/s609.htm


Yeah that'd be cool:
hmmm.. can you send me your email?
I'll email you mine to your NZFF inbox - don't know how to add pictures...
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Postby Alex » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:43 am

ctcav8r wrote:
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...don't know how to add pictures...

How to post images. winkyy.gif

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Postby ctcav8r » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:44 pm

ctcav8r wrote:
QUOTE (ctcav8r @ Feb 4 2009, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi there,
I'm using FSX and have been for a while.
I'm just starting my flying training at Hamilton (CTC)
My aircraft for training is a Robin HR200 / (NZ) Alpha 160
I would love to have this aircraft to practise with in FSX.
I downloaded a FS2004 version (which seems to be the only one around) but the panels don't work.
Reading through other forums this is a common problem and not really one that can be solved.
When I load the aircraft - it doesn't have any panel or gauges at all.

Was wondering if anyone knew of/could help me find an FSX version?
Am very happy to pay for it if it is good quality.

Or is there anyone here that can create one or is in the process of?


Are their quality aircraft designers that would be interested in making a RObin/ALpha 160?
Does anyone know of a software developer or aircraft designer that might be interested?
Would love it if someone was able to make an FSX version!!
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Postby vdm » Sun Mar 22, 2009 2:42 pm

Hi guys, sorry to dig up this thread.

Quick question - I have FSX and have downloaded a Robin HR200 (shr200.zip, by Mike Stone). I then downloaded the 2D Alpha 160 panel to go with it (made by deeknow from this forum). I realise both of these are made for FS2004, but I got the HR200 working fine, I just can't seem to get the Alpha panel working properly. I tried the panel.cfg fix that creator2003 posted in this thread which makes the gauges show up but puts them in the wrong position so it looks like this: http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alphapanel.jpg

I've spent a lot of time on Google but can't seem to find a fix. Does anyone have any ideas?

Cheers.
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Postby ctcav8r » Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:52 pm

ctcav8r wrote:
QUOTE (ctcav8r @ Feb 26 2009, 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are their quality aircraft designers that would be interested in making a RObin/ALpha 160?
Does anyone know of a software developer or aircraft designer that might be interested?
Would love it if someone was able to make an FSX version!!


In regards to a designer...
even if it was a company and you know someone who is good there to make the Alpha/Robin.
I get a little bit frustrated with the same a/c getting made time and time again while other new aircraft haven't been done at all.
That's just me though.
Definately keen to pay for a good working FSX a/c of the Alpha/Robin.
The FS9 version Robin Hr22 just doesn't cut the mustard in FSX I'm sorry. No VC is the main prob... + numerous others
Someone, somewhere know of anyone who might be interested?
I will be flying the a/c in a few weeks so can supply any pics, data, charts etc that might be needed.
Just need a willing soul to take it on...
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Postby ctcav8r » Fri Apr 10, 2009 4:54 pm

Here are a few pics from what I could find on the net:





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Postby UnitedWeFall » Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:02 am

ctcav8r wrote:
QUOTE (ctcav8r @ Apr 10 2009, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In regards to a designer...
even if it was a company and you know someone who is good there to make the Alpha/Robin.
I get a little bit frustrated with the same a/c getting made time and time again while other new aircraft haven't been done at all.
That's just me though.
Definately keen to pay for a good working FSX a/c of the Alpha/Robin.
The FS9 version Robin Hr22 just doesn't cut the mustard in FSX I'm sorry. No VC is the main prob... + numerous others
Someone, somewhere know of anyone who might be interested?
I will be flying the a/c in a few weeks so can supply any pics, data, charts etc that might be needed.
Just need a willing soul to take it on...


Agreed. I fly at the aero club, i'm willing to go and take photos of the Alphas exterior and instrument panels for anyone that might be interested in making a model for FSX.
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Postby deeknow » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:57 pm

I'm not meaning to be rude or anything winkyy.gif but you guys asking for someone to whip up a model know that it is a pretty serious undertaking right?

Its far more likely that an easier route is to create a VC, which probably means one for FS9 and another for FSX, you may just find someone willing to do that but even that will be a big step up from building a simple 2d panel.
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Postby Naki » Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:15 am

As deeknow said - making a decent model is a big undertaking and can take months if not years of part time work - often the nicer models you get are group undertakings - somebody does the gauges, another does the FDE, another the sound, another the aircraft exterior etc etc..but I would really like to see a nice Alpha/Robin 160 modelled.
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Postby UnitedWeFall » Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:13 pm

Naki wrote:
QUOTE (Naki @ Apr 15 2009, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As deeknow said - making a decent model is a big undertaking and can take months if not years of part time work - often the nicer models you get are group undertakings - somebody does the gauges, another does the FDE, another the sound, another the aircraft exterior etc etc..but I would really like to see a nice Alpha/Robin 160 modelled.


Fair enough.. no harm in asking though smile.gif
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Postby ctcav8r » Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:03 am

Well, we might be in luck!!!
I emailed around lots of companies and Premier Aircraft Designs http://www.premaircraft.com/ said they would be keen!
They have a French designer there who is passionate about French aircraft and has requested I send more info, charts, pictures, specs etc which I just have!!!
can't imagine anything right away - but they definitely seem keen seeing the 'hole-in-the-market' for a popular training aircraft.

So, BIG step in the right direction.

And, Premaircraft if you're reading this! Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby deeknow » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:01 pm

ctcav8r wrote:
QUOTE (ctcav8r @ Apr 17 2009, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I emailed around lots of companies and Premier Aircraft Designs http://www.premaircraft.com/ said they would be keen!

Bludy brilliant... good work. Keep us posted if they let you know they are starting work on it.
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Postby Naki » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:24 pm

Thats good news!
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Postby Njbb1995 » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:30 pm

Wow great!
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Postby atc_unit » Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:54 pm

ctcav8r wrote:
QUOTE (ctcav8r @ Apr 15 2009, 04:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here are a few pics from what I could find on the net:


LOL My boss is in the first two Alpha formation pics. If you need any interior shots I can get them next time I'm at work.
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