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Postby HercFeend » Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:02 am

Funky & poisOn thanks for the tips and support. Really appreciated.

I'm doing all the theory study on my own during lunchtimes, in the evenings & weekends etc, so unfortunately no ground school instructors to annoy - however I'll take full advantage of instructor time when I'm flying (pre, during & post).

I'll keep you posted on the progress.........

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Postby pacblue » Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:26 pm

YAY i have 3.2 hours now YUSSSS haha. but i also have my radio telephony exam booked. does anyone have any advice that has sat this exam yet?? or what its like?? cheers. much appreciated
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Postby Goose » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:51 pm

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YAY i have 3.2 hours now YUSSSS haha. but i also have my radio telephony exam booked. does anyone have any advice that has sat this exam yet?? or what its like?? cheers. much appreciated



i sat that exam about 6 or 7 weeks ago now, you should be fine, especially since you already have had a little experience hearing the radio calls (i hadnt had any) im pretty sure you can get the ac off the caa website which is really handy! i think thats what is was, had examples of everything you need to know for the exam, obviously the dont ask you on everything.

edit, just found the thing i was talking about, http://www.caa.govt.nz/Advisory_Circulars/...9_and_172_1.pdf. this is what i studied off
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Postby pacblue » Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:37 am

Cheers goose. was very helpfull.
I cant wait to get this one out of the way and then on to human factors lol joy!!
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Postby HercFeend » Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:36 pm

ah Human Factors. What are you reading? I've just started - Aviation Medicine and other Human Factors for Pilots by Dr. Ross Ewing - informative, easy and entertaining read.
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Postby pacblue » Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:00 pm

im reading the aviation medicine and other human factors for pilots from dr. Ross L Ewing aswell
quite interesting stuff in it actually.
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Postby ZK-Brock » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:42 pm

Yer I read the Ross Ewing one as well, just read it twice then did the exam and got 90%
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Postby Squawk1200 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:55 pm

I also read Ross Ewings book, read it twice for PPL, got 100% smile.gif then read it once again for CPL and wrote down some notes, and got 85% (at least i passed tongue.gif )
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Postby Goose » Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:48 pm

pacblue wrote:
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Cheers goose. was very helpfull.
I cant wait to get this one out of the way and then on to human factors lol joy!!


No worries man, not sure if you know but there are also sample papers available, not for radio but for all the other ppl subject, they are pretty close to what the actual exam is like and definitely helped me, took them as mock exams in the week leading up to mine, helped to show me where extra study was needed!

http://www.aviation.co.nz/Exam_Samples.htm

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QUOTE (Squawk1200 @ Nov 6 2008, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also read Ross Ewings book, read it twice for PPL, got 100% smile.gif then read it once again for CPL and wrote down some notes, and got 85% (at least i passed tongue.gif )


Yeah i found cpl human factors is a bit harder than ppl, the questions were alot more wordy but i actually ended up with pretty much the same mark for both, 92 and 93
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Postby pacblue » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:36 pm

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QUOTE (Goose @ Nov 6 2008, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No worries man, not sure if you know but there are also sample papers available, not for radio but for all the other ppl subject, they are pretty close to what the actual exam is like and definitely helped me, took them as mock exams in the week leading up to mine, helped to show me where extra study was needed!

http://www.aviation.co.nz/Exam_Samples.htm



Yeah i found cpl human factors is a bit harder than ppl, the questions were alot more wordy but i actually ended up with pretty much the same mark for both, 92 and 93



Great idea mate, it would be good to have a mock to see were study is needed. i will take that advice and let you know how i get on in a weeks time smile.gif
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Postby HardCorePawn » Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:53 am

That Ross Ewing book is all you need for Human Factors (both PPL and CPL)... that and a bit of common sense... Recently got 100% for CPL HF winkyy.gif

Currently studying for CPL Principles of Flight and Performace (A) which I have on the 17th...
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Postby pacblue » Sat Nov 08, 2008 2:48 pm

HardCorePawn wrote:
QUOTE (HardCorePawn @ Nov 7 2008, 08:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That Ross Ewing book is all you need for Human Factors (both PPL and CPL)... that and a bit of common sense... Recently got 100% for CPL HF winkyy.gif

Currently studying for CPL Principles of Flight and Performace (A) which I have on the 17th...



Best of luck to you mate, let us know how you go.
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Postby HardCorePawn » Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:40 am

I have also foolishly booked my Level 6 'Engrish' Assessment for the following day... $100 to talk on the phone for 10 minutes... and apparently I have to cough up another $10 to Heliflight for using their premises to do so...

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Postby HercFeend » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:17 am

From my limited knowledge (I haven't bothered looking into it properly yet as, with 35 years of spoken English experience, I don't think I have too much to worry about) this whole english proficiency thing seems like an expensive joke...... sad.gif
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Postby FlyingKiwi » Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:55 am

It's very straightforward, you've got nothing to worry about. What you actually say doesn't matter too much - just that you are able to speak clearly and at least somewhat concisely.
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Postby HercFeend » Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:46 am

Lol. Thanks FlyingKiwi.

I feel my sarcasm on this subject wasn’t really fully appreciated though! I hope, since I’m a 36 year old Englishman and have, since around 18 months old, spoken only English my entire life, that I would not have an issue passing an English vocabulary assessment - as I’m sure is the case of the majority of Kiwis, Poms and other individuals from English speaking nations who fly in NZ. I think the point I’m trying to make is that, yes rules like this need to be enforced but to blanket test everyone seems like a money making scheme to me.

When we emigrated here we had to fulfil English language requirements, it was enough however to declare to NZ Immigration that English was our first language. CAA should adopt a similar stance i.e. Is English your first (and possibly only) language? Yes = no test required. No = testing required. If you make a false statement it’s not as if you’ll get away with it for very long – unless you intend to stay silent your entire career!

In summary, I think it’s a bit daft to make every single person take the test – a lot of time and money could be saved with an alternative system. But this is just MHO.

BTW – I got 90% in my PPL Nav, which I'm pleased with. Just thought I’d share winkyy.gif
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Postby HardCorePawn » Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:15 am

HercFeend wrote:
QUOTE (HercFeend @ Nov 10 2008, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In summary, I think it’s a bit daft to make every single person take the test – a lot of time and money could be saved with an alternative system. But this is just MHO.


Yes... I kinda like the aussie system, where they using ATO's (Aviation Testing Officers aka Flight Examiners)... it makes quite a lot of sense really... obviously you are going to have to talk to the Flight Examiner to pass a flight test, so they should be able to determine whether or not you "spek da gud england".

HercFeend wrote:
QUOTE (HercFeend @ Nov 10 2008, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
BTW – I got 90% in my PPL Nav, which I'm pleased with. Just thought I’d share winkyy.gif


Well done that man! Choccy fish for you!
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Postby HercFeend » Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:44 am

That does indeed sound like a much better system.

Thanks for the ’fush’ HCP biggrin.gif Although I’m pleased, there’s still a hell of a hill to climb! I can just about see the light at the end of the tunnel, I just hope it’s not the light of an oncoming speeding train winkyy.gif
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Postby HercFeend » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:01 pm

Woohoo 87% in CPL Nav. Off to a good start. Chuffed groupwave.gif
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Postby Goose » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:16 pm

HardCorePawn wrote:
QUOTE (HardCorePawn @ Nov 7 2008, 08:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That Ross Ewing book is all you need for Human Factors (both PPL and CPL)... that and a bit of common sense... Recently got 100% for CPL HF winkyy.gif

Currently studying for CPL Principles of Flight and Performace (A) which I have on the 17th...



is that up in auckland? if so i have three exams that day so will prob see you there, haha. Got cpl principals of flight, meteorology, and aircraft tech, then nav the following day
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