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[NZ255]

I find in the sim, if I open the thrusters when the main wheels are on the ground only, I lose to much speed and all of a sudden the nose falls and the wheels thumps on the runway. I still land with the main gear then reverse thrust, then nose wheel, but I think I have to work on getting the nose wheel on the ground faster and smooooothy.....

[A185F]

QUOTE (Q300 @ Jun 24 2008, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Realy cool photos, great to have an AKL employe here!
Freaking love the beech!!!!!!!!! Its the one thing that makes me wish I keep working towards being a pilot

Edit; Just noticed the cellphone on the beech panel

I Like the look of the 1900 cockpit but It is just way too small !!!! Ya need a shoe horn to get in an out !!

QUOTE (benwynn @ Jun 25 2008, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Depends on company SOPs, and aircraft- But in reality it doesnt make a really big difference, different pilots different things Id say.

Yes it does usually depend on SOPs and aircraft. We wait until the nose wheel is down. 2 Main reasons, 1st - in most turboprops the beta and reverse is very effective so if you wacked it back while only in mains the nose would come pretty hard (not nice) and 2nd most importantly, if the nose is up and you put reverse and one engine doesnt go in or one goes in significantly more than the other (can and sometimes does) then you could end up in an "oh crud" situation where one engine is pulling forward and the other is pushing back.... the plane could do a quick twisty mcturn and all at high speed, side on to runway, lots of noise, lots of fire, lots of pain etc etc get the drift...........................
Our procedure is to touch down, let nose wheel come down ( happens pretty quick) the power leavers over into ground idle, beta lights illuminate for each engine and the pnf calls 2 lights and after that bring back into reverse (if required, ground idle on usually has oodles of stopping power)


but yea dunno how the jets go about it but i do see em with reverse while nose is off ground, maybe more sophisticated system, less effective by comparison... i dunno. In saying that I have seen the air nelson dashes sometimes (but more often not) do it so who knows what they are up to

[Airtrainer]

Here is a pic of a Polish AF Tu-154 landing in Wellington last year. Not my best shot of the day but does show the reverse thrust bucket deployed before any wheels are down. Man the tyres on this thing were bald, got pics of that too.

[Ian Warren]

love the pic .. love the plane .. Airtrainer well done

[benwynn]

Yeah, thats probably just beacuse its Russian plane though

Yeah, when I was in the ANZ Sim, the guy said nose wheel down firmly then Reverse thrust.

[d3fai13r]

Tu 154 very often reverse engines before touch down(for example in Kiev ive seen landings of Aeroflot and S7 in that way). Moreover there was a case of IL62m landing with reverse before touchdown

[FlyingKiwi]

I believe with the IL-62 it's actually standard to land with the thrust reverse deployed immediately prior to touchdown.

On a side note, isn't that TU-154 just such an amazingly awesome looking aircraft?

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (FlyingKiwi @ Jun 27 2008, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

isn't that TU-154 just such an amazingly awesome looking aircraft?

Uuuu yeah and the Ill-76 Candid

[Airtrainer]

QUOTE (FlyingKiwi @ Jun 27 2008, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

On a side note, isn't that TU-154 just such an amazingly awesome looking aircraft?

It is, that take-off was quite cool too. I've never seen an aircrafct create a dust cloud like it did when taking off from Wellington before either.

[Gavin Conroy]

The photo of the Q300 with the rainbow in the background looks great.

[d3fai13r]

QUOTE (Airtrainer @ Jun 27 2008, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I've never seen an aircrafct create a dust cloud like it did when taking off from Wellington before either

I believe that the biggest dust cloud make An124 and An225 when they are taking off in CIS airports just after winter when it is too much dust on runway(ground services are working really bad). However ussr aircrafts just looking very good but they are usually very uncomfortable(((

[Kelburn]

With Reverse Thrust, apparently dash-6 pilots are known to revers the plane in the air and before touch down etc. (I'm pretty sure you can reverse in flight)