Fly Tampa - Kai Tak

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Postby Naki » Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:07 pm

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Postby creator2003 » Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:12 pm

Looks good doesnt it ,i tool the sim to the school for show and tell the other week and after the kids had fun the teacher wanted ago ,i said where and he said Kai tak ,wish i could have shown him this on finals biggrin.gif
thanks for the link ...
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Postby Peppermint » Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:20 pm

Jeez! Flytampa making Kai Tak! This is on my 'list of things to get' and bumps its way to the top!
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Postby Charl » Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:21 pm

I'm booking the FS9 version (10/10 to FlyTampa on that front) but I'd love to hear how FSX deals with that scenery.
Simply stunning!
Thanks for posting the find, Paul.
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Postby NZ255 » Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:36 pm

Wonder how different this will be compared to 9 dragons kai tak?
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Postby Snowman » Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:57 pm

WOW !!!!
Definately on my "to Get" list.......
Got all of Fly Tampa's other sceneries, and HAVNT been dissapointed yet,........ money well spent .

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Postby ardypilot » Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:48 am

Oh My God!
That scenery just looks stunning- will definitely be purchasing that when it is released drool.gif
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Postby creator2003 » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:43 pm

I heard also on the grapevine that AES will be supported here so that would mean its not that far away from realease....
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Postby Charl » Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:16 pm

I do like a screenshot that almost fills up the screen...
AES ay? Jeepers I'll have to re-work my whole AI setup to do Kai Tak again.
Think I'll put in a pre-order for a boxed CD - you'll get trampled in the rush if you want a download version.

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Postby Florian_S » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:07 pm

I saw this they other day....Even though The airport is closed I think it's just a tad too tempting to turn down!! Not much words can be added to what those screenshots show!
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Postby yak52dude » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:17 pm

wow ohmy.gif That there my friend is so good words can't describe it ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif
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Postby Peppermint » Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:17 pm

WHo cares if it's closed in real life, that's why we have flight sim! And with flytampa quality who wouldn't want to turn this down!
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Postby creator2003 » Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:38 pm

Yeah closed but never forgotten ,that will be there selling point right there ,id say this will be one of there all time top sellers ,everyone likes/Loves Kai tak
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Postby victor_alpha_charlie » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:32 pm

Who cares if it's closed? Having that awesome approach gives you something to look forward to after a long flight.
And knowing Flytampa, it'll look awesome, have heaps of animations, and be really FPS friendly. Woo!
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Postby Daniel » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:22 pm

drool.gif WOW!!! drool.gif
Kai tak must be up there in the best airports in the world with St Marteen etc even though it is now closed.
I think that will be at the top of my shopping list cool.gif
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Postby Anthony » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:34 pm

Daniel wrote:
QUOTE (Daniel @ Jun 16 2008, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
drool.gif WOW!!! drool.gif
Kai tak must be up there in the best airports in the world with St Marteen etc even though it is now closed.
I think that will be at the top of my shopping list cool.gif


Absolutely - Kai Tak's awesome approach which is detailed below makes it pretty infamous, especially amoung pilots and plane geeks and even flight simmers too.

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Runway 13
The landing approach using runway 13 at Kai Tak was spectacular and world-famous. To land on runway 13, an aircraft first took a descent heading northeast. The aircraft would pass over the crowded harbour, and then the very densely populated areas on Western Kowloon. This leg of the approach was guided by an IGS (Instrument Guidance System, a modified ILS) after 1974.

Upon reaching a small hill marked with a checkerboard in red and white, used as a visual reference point on the final approach (in addition to the middle marker on the Instrument Guidance System), the pilot needed to make a 47° visual right turn to line up with the runway and complete the final leg. The aircraft would be just two nautical miles (3.7 km) from touchdown, at a height of less than 1,000 feet (300 m) when the turn was made. Typically the plane would enter the final right turn at the height of about 650 feet (200 m) and exit it at the height of 140 feet (43 m) to line up with the runway.

Landing the runway 13 approach was already difficult with normal crosswinds since even if the wind direction was constant, as it was changing relative to the aeroplane when the 47° visual right turn is being made. The landing would become even more challenging when crosswinds from the northeast were strong and gusty during typhoons. The mountain range northeast of the airport also makes wind vary greatly in both speed and direction; thus, varying the lift of the aeroplane. From a spectator's point of view, watching large Boeing 747s banking at low altitudes and taking big crab angles during their final approaches was quite thrilling. Despite the difficulty, it was nonetheless used most of the time due to the prevailing wind direction in Hong Kong.

Due to the turn in final approach, ILS was not available for runway 13 and landings had to follow a visual approach. This made the runway unusable in low visibility conditions.[/quote]

Taking off on runway 31 was also pretty cool - you had to make a sharp left turn, and you couldn't take off until the very end because of the taxiway or something.
Quite a few accidents, though not as many as you might expect.

More information here (Wikipedia).

Anyway this should be a pretty cool addon and if I had a shopping list, It would be at the top of mine too drool.gif.
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Postby Mattnz » Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:03 pm

I love all the other Fly Tampa products, so if this is anything like the others....well worth getting cool.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:56 pm

this airport will never die ... anyone bothered to check out what it looks like today ?
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Postby victor_alpha_charlie » Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:59 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Jun 16 2008, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
this airport will never die ... anyone bothered to check out what it looks like today ?


They've built apartment blocks and a park there now. sad.gif
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Postby Ian Warren » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:07 pm

victor_alpha_charlie wrote:
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They've built apartment blocks and a park there now. sad.gif

Guess that same as the old default MSFS Megis field , Chicago
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