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Postby Snowman » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:52 pm

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Hi Lawrie,
For some reason I have no texture on thew terminal at Norfolk Island. Everything else is fine. Any ideas or what the name of the textures required are?
Great scenery otherwise.
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Hi Steve.
Very strange, out of the 555 downloads its had in the last 5 days, no-one has mentioned missing textures for the terminal. Had plenty of positive comments about it , but no problems.
The textures for the terminal are named (there are 4 )..............

viva terminal large a.bmp
viva terminal large a_LM.bmp
viva terminal large door.bmp
viva terminal large door_LM.bmp

They are from the EZ Large Hangers object set for EZ Scenery, by Sidney Schwartz.
Just downloaded the zip file from Avsim for my own curiosity, and the textures are there................ blink.gif unsure.gif

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Postby cowpatz » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:29 am

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Hi Steve.
Very strange, out of the 555 downloads its had in the last 5 days, no-one has mentioned missing textures for the terminal. Had plenty of positive comments about it , but no problems.
The textures for the terminal are named (there are 4 )..............

viva terminal large a.bmp
viva terminal large a_LM.bmp
viva terminal large door.bmp
viva terminal large door_LM.bmp

They are from the EZ Large Hangers object set for EZ Scenery, by Sidney Schwartz.
Just downloaded the zip file from Avsim for my own curiosity, and the textures are there................ blink.gif unsure.gif

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Postby cowpatz » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:35 am

I did a search for the textures and they are sitting in the \Add on Scenery\Norfolk Island YSNF\ Texture file. I am not sure why they dont show.
This is what I get:



Really does spoil some very nice scenery. Any ideas?

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Postby Snowman » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:12 pm

Hi Steve.
Im really baffled here. Ive seen the scenery in action on a few other peoples machines, and no probs.
Obviously the textures are there, as you found them. In the Addon Scenery / Norfolk Island YSNF/ Scenery folder, are there 2 bgl files, one named "ez-large hangers ss.bgl", and another named "YSNF_term.bgl". These files tell the sim to display the terminal textures.
If they are all there, i wonder if one of the files has been corrupted somehow during the download process. Have you tried re-downloading a fresh file from Avsim, and re-installing it again ??

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Postby dazza28 » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:02 pm

Hey Lawrie

Your scenery's are great awesome effort aye thumbup1.gif

Just a question is there any news on your Palmerston North Airport that you were doing ?

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Postby Snowman » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:31 pm

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Hey Lawrie

Your scenery's are great awesome effort aye thumbup1.gif

Just a question is there any news on your Palmerston North Airport that you were doing ?

Thanks Dazza.


Palmerston North is coming along slowly. The photoreal and custom buildings will be the time consuming thing, and we are working on more than one project at once. Fear not, it will get out there before Santa arrives this year. smile.gif
Thanks for the compliment on my simple sceneries. QUESTION:........ did you have any problems with Norfolk Island YSNF ??

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Postby Snowman » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:54 pm

Another New Zealand Airport scenery coming,..........
Kaitaia Airport NZKT.
Should be on Avsim this weekend.

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Postby Mattnz » Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:11 pm

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I did a search for the textures and they are sitting in the \Add on Scenery\Norfolk Island YSNF\ Texture file. I am not sure why they dont show.
This is what I get:


Really does spoil some very nice scenery. Any ideas?

Cheers
Steve


That's strange, I'm getting exactly the same problem, though at NZKK; YSNF is fine!

I have tried re-downloading from AVSIM, but that doesn't seem to have had any effect sad.gif

Edit: Oh, and I look forward to NZKT biggrin.gif
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Postby ranm » Fri Sep 21, 2007 7:57 pm

You guys may have duplicate objects throughout your activated sceneries. Especially with the RWy12 objects, make sure you only have one of each...Ran
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Another New Zealand Airport scenery coming,..........Kaitaia Airport NZKT.Should be on Avsim this weekend.
Hey Lawrie, I know other people are looking at making Paraparaumu, but you are fairly productive and your sceneries are really really good, so what say you? - you must have a Paraparam scenery tou started some time ago???? ;)Ran
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Postby Snowman » Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:59 am

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You guys may have duplicate objects throughout your activated sceneries. Especially with the RWy12 objects, make sure you only have one of each...RanHey Lawrie, I know other people are looking at making Paraparaumu, but you are fairly productive and your sceneries are really really good, so what say you? - you must have a Paraparam scenery tou started some time ago???? ;)Ran


Hi Ran.. Yes, you could be right about the duplicated objects, i should have thought of that one, as it happened to me a couple of years back.
It wont be Runway-12 objects though, i didnt include them in the texture folders. It will be EZ-Scenery objects, they are the only textures i included. So, if you have the EZ-Scenery libraries installed and activated in your sim, the thing to do would be to remove the appropriate textures from the "Texture" folder of the scenery, ( the buildings that only show as a bare grey untextured box), so that there are no conflicts.
Yes Ran, i do have NZPP on my list of places to do. I have a couple of others in the que ahead of that one , but it will happen.
I do believe i read a post somewhere on NZFF a few days ago, about someone else doing an NZPP scenery...................
Very sorry to anyone thats having this sort of problem with the odd texture, it simply didnt occur to me.............

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Postby Snowman » Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:25 am

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Hi Steve.Very strange, out of the 555 downloads its had in the last 5 days, no-one has mentioned missing textures for the terminal. Had plenty of positive comments about it , but no problems.The textures for the terminal are named (there are 4 )..............viva terminal large a.bmpviva terminal large a_LM.bmpviva terminal large door.bmpviva terminal large door_LM.bmpThey are from the EZ Large Hangers object set for EZ Scenery, by Sidney Schwartz.Just downloaded the zip file from Avsim for my own curiosity, and the textures are there................ blink.gif unsure.gif Lawrie New_Zealand_etc.gif

Steve (cowpatz),If you have the EZ Scenery libraries installed and activated in your sim, try REMOVING the 4 abovementioned textures from the "Texture" folder of my scenery, and see what happens.

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That's strange, I'm getting exactly the same problem, though at NZKK; YSNF is fine!I have tried re-downloading from AVSIM, but that doesn't seem to have had any effect :(Edit: Oh, and I look forward to NZKT biggrin.gif
Mattnz,.......Do you have the EZ-Scenery libraries installed in your sim ??Which buildings are not textured at NZKK in your sim ??

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Postby Snowman » Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:36 am

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Hi Ran.. Yes, you could be right about the duplicated objects, i should have thought of that one, as it happened to me a couple of years back.
It wont be Runway-12 objects though, i didnt include them in the texture folders. It will be EZ-Scenery objects, they are the only textures i included. So, if you have the EZ-Scenery libraries installed and activated in your sim, the thing to do would be to remove the appropriate textures from the "Texture" folder of the scenery, ( the buildings that only show as a bare grey untextured box), so that there are no conflicts.
Yes Ran, i do have NZPP on my list of places to do. I have a couple of others in the que ahead of that one , but it will happen.
I do believe i read a post somewhere on NZFF a few days ago, about someone else doing an NZPP scenery...................
Very sorry to anyone thats having this sort of problem with the odd texture, it simply didnt occur to me.............

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I have had a good look at things, and as well as the EZ-Scenery duplicate texture problem, there could also be another duplicate texture problem if you have Nova, and Nova Gold textures already installed in your sim.
If you DO have the Nova and / or the Nova Gold textures already in your sim, please delete any textures begginning with the name Nova or Novagold from the texture folder of my sceneries.
Anybody with the EZ Scenery Libraries in their sim, and have any untextured buildings in one of my sceneries, please let me know, and if possible post a screenie of the offending building, so that i can tell you which texture file to remove to fix the problem.

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Postby dask77 » Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:30 am

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Currently well into construction,..................... NZPM Palmerston North International Airport.
Photoreal type terminal, and loads of other detail.
Any interest in this one being released ????

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hey darren here palmy would be great
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Postby Mattnz » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:45 am

Only one of the buildings at NZKK is textured for me, and that is the airmail building.
I have had a little play around with the textures, and removing the nova textures didn't work. As far as I'm aware, I don't have the EZ Scenery library installed, or the nova textures.
From what I can see, NZKK is the only scenery of yours with the nova textures, and is also the only one that doesn't work properly, which is why I assumed it was the nova textures.

Here are a few screenshots of the problem:


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Postby Snowman » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:17 am

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hey darren here palmy would be great


NZPM will be a while. Theres a photoreal terminal to do, and other custom buildings.
All takes time.........................

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Postby Snowman » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:33 am

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Only one of the buildings at NZKK is textured for me, and that is the airmail building.
I have had a little play around with the textures, and removing the nova textures didn't work. As far as I'm aware, I don't have the EZ Scenery library installed, or the nova textures.
From what I can see, NZKK is the only scenery of yours with the nova textures, and is also the only one that doesn't work properly, which is why I assumed it was the nova textures.


Kaitaia uses a couple of the Nova textures as well. Cant understand why the terminal building and hangers arent showing at Kerikeri, they are EZ Scenery objects. In the third pic, i notice there is abuilding missing completely, to the right of the hanger. They seem to work on other peoples systems, ive seen screen shots. I will have to look into this further.
I am becoming concerned here, maybe i should give up using the EZ Scenery objects, and just go back to solely the Runway-12 objects, never had any trouble with the Rwy-12 stuff.
Many apologies for the dissapointment................. sad.gif

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Postby Snowman » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:36 pm

For the odd few of you that are having a problem with the odd building texture not showing , i have come up with a solution.
Download the EZ-Scenery libraries (free from Abacus Publishing), and also there are a huge number of addon EZ Scenery libraries on Avsim as well.
As well as the basic EZ Scenery libraries from Abacus, you will also need to download the following from Avsim..........

Lens EZ Walls and Fences, by Len Hickman.
Lens EZ Scenery Library Vol 1, by Len Hickman.
EZ-Fuel Tanks, by Sidney Schwartz.
EZ Large Hangers SS , by Sidney Schwartz.
EZ Terminals SS, by Sidney Schwartz,
Library of objects for EZ Scenery V1 , by John B Loney Jnr.
UK Buildings V-1, by Colin green.
EZ Houses and Buildings, by Ron Jeffers.
FS9 Custom Buildings SS V1, by Sidney Scwartz,
FS9 Custom Buildings SS V2, by Sidney Schwartz.

Install these items into the "Static Objects Library", the same as the Runway-12 items.
.BGL files and .MDL files in the "Scenery" folder, and .BMP textures in the "Texture" folder of the Static Objects Library.

If you have any of the following 4 sceneries of mine...............
NZKK Kerikeri, NZKT Kaitaia, NZWU Wanganui, YSNF Norfolk Island, AFTER install of the EZ Scenery libraries, please REMOVE the complete "Texture" folder from the 4 abovementioned sceneries, then go into the "Scenery" folder of each of the 4 sceneries and REMOVE any of the following files you find there.............

ez-fuel tanks.bgl
ez-fuel tanks.txt
ez-large hangers ss.bgl
ez-large hangers ss.txt
ez-terminals ss.bgl
ez-terminals ss.txt
lens ez walls & fences vol1.bgl
lens ez walls & fences vol1.txt
McMinnville FBO Office.mdl
Closed Hanger.mdl
Gray FBO.mdl
kbmt_hanger 8 door.mdl
kbmt_maxair.mdl

The other sceneries by me on Avsim are not affected by this problem, as no EZ objects were used in the construction of them.
This appllies to ONLY the 4 sceneries mentioned above,........ NZKK, NZKT, NZWU, YSNF.

These actions will hopefully stop the odd textureless building from occuring for some of you.
I was trying to be helpful in including the textures with the download, to save you a bit of time downloading, but from now on all my sceneries will be uploaded WITHOUT textures, unless there are CUSTOM buildings in the scenery.
I will list what files are needed for the scneries, in the install instructions, same as i do listing the Runway-12 objects required.

Once again, my sincerest apologies to those few who did experience the odd texturless building.

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Postby ranm » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:24 pm

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Kaitaia uses a couple of the Nova textures as well. Cant understand why the terminal building and hangers arent showing at Kerikeri, they are EZ Scenery objects. In the third pic, i notice there is abuilding missing completely, to the right of the hanger. They seem to work on other peoples systems, ive seen screen shots. I will have to look into this further.
I am becoming concerned here, maybe i should give up using the EZ Scenery objects, and just go back to solely the Runway-12 objects, never had any trouble with the Rwy-12 stuff.
Many apologies for the dissapointment................. sad.gif

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Don't know if this is helpful or not, but I am missing building textures in NZKK and NZKT as well. in NZKT, I am missing all building textures but the small mail office, and in NZKK, I am only missing the textures for the small office next to the mail office building (if that makes sense).

I noticed that the there is a resemblance in the texture files are names so I decided to gamble. I basically copied the textures between both sceneries so both contain the texture files from each other. In NZKT only the main hanger textures showed up, but the hanger at NZKK is all funny now.

I think it shows that the problem may be related to mapping of the objects to specific texture files, but I know nothing about scenery design and how the objects and textures hand together.

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Postby cowpatz » Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:40 am

Snowman wrote:
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For the odd few of you that are having a problem with the odd building texture not showing , i have come up with a solution.
Download the EZ-Scenery libraries (free from Abacus Publishing), and also there are a huge number of addon EZ Scenery libraries on Avsim as well.
As well as the basic EZ Scenery libraries from Abacus, you will also need to download the following from Avsim..........

Lens EZ Walls and Fences, by Len Hickman.
Lens EZ Scenery Library Vol 1, by Len Hickman.
EZ-Fuel Tanks, by Sidney Schwartz.
EZ Large Hangers SS , by Sidney Schwartz.
EZ Terminals SS, by Sidney Schwartz,
Library of objects for EZ Scenery V1 , by John B Loney Jnr.
UK Buildings V-1, by Colin green.
EZ Houses and Buildings, by Ron Jeffers.
FS9 Custom Buildings SS V1, by Sidney Scwartz,
FS9 Custom Buildings SS V2, by Sidney Schwartz.

Install these items into the "Static Objects Library", the same as the Runway-12 items.
.BGL files and .MDL files in the "Scenery" folder, and .BMP textures in the "Texture" folder of the Static Objects Library.

If you have any of the following 4 sceneries of mine...............
NZKK Kerikeri, NZKT Kaitaia, NZWU Wanganui, YSNF Norfolk Island, AFTER install of the EZ Scenery libraries, please REMOVE the complete "Texture" folder from the 4 abovementioned sceneries, then go into the "Scenery" folder of each of the 4 sceneries and REMOVE any of the following files you find there.............

ez-fuel tanks.bgl
ez-fuel tanks.txt
ez-large hangers ss.bgl
ez-large hangers ss.txt
ez-terminals ss.bgl
ez-terminals ss.txt
lens ez walls & fences vol1.bgl
lens ez walls & fences vol1.txt
McMinnville FBO Office.mdl
Closed Hanger.mdl
Gray FBO.mdl
kbmt_hanger 8 door.mdl
kbmt_maxair.mdl

The other sceneries by me on Avsim are not affected by this problem, as no EZ objects were used in the construction of them.
This appllies to ONLY the 4 sceneries mentioned above,........ NZKK, NZKT, NZWU, YSNF.

These actions will hopefully stop the odd textureless building from occuring for some of you.
I was trying to be helpful in including the textures with the download, to save you a bit of time downloading, but from now on all my sceneries will be uploaded WITHOUT textures, unless there are CUSTOM buildings in the scenery.
I will list what files are needed for the scneries, in the install instructions, same as i do listing the Runway-12 objects required.

Once again, my sincerest apologies to those few who did experience the odd texturless building.

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Thanks Lawrie,
According to the Abacus site the EZ-Scenery library is payware. Is this correct or am I looking at the wrong thing? It is not that I object to payware but I just need to weigh up whether or not I really need it. If I do this will it have any affect on my VOZ scenery? VOZ also uses some EZ-library objects.
I checked for the files you mentioned in an earlier post and the textures and BGL files are there. There was some duplication of the textures (NZKK and also some VOZ scenery) I tried removing these other 2 temporarily but it made no difference.
Looks like I am going to be using my full data cap this month smile.gif
Cheers
Steve
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Postby Snowman » Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:50 pm

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Thanks Lawrie,
According to the Abacus site the EZ-Scenery library is payware. Is this correct or am I looking at the wrong thing? It is not that I object to payware but I just need to weigh up whether or not I really need it. If I do this will it have any affect on my VOZ scenery? VOZ also uses some EZ-library objects.
I checked for the files you mentioned in an earlier post and the textures and BGL files are there. There was some duplication of the textures (NZKK and also some VOZ scenery) I tried removing these other 2 temporarily but it made no difference.
Looks like I am going to be using my full data cap this month smile.gif
Cheers
Steve


The EZ Scenery creator program is payware, but the libraries are free.......................
Excerpt from Abacus's Instructions for EZ-Scenery..................................

QUOTE[ The EZ-Libraries and the associated textures are available to everyone. Any Flight Sim user can download and install the EZ-Libraries on his or her Flight Simulator system.

When you create scenery using 3D objects from either the FS2004 Libraries (available by default on each system) or the EZ-Libraries you can easily share these sceneries without concern about distributing these libraries and textures. Since they are freely available, the end user simply downloads and installs the EZ-Libraries and is ready to enjoy your new scenery.

When you install EZ-Scenery, you are also installing the EZ-Libraries. Moreover, the EZ-Libraries are also available separately for public download and installation. Here is the link if you'd like to share it with other Flight Sim users:

http://www.abacuspub.com/pub/AbacusEZLibraries.exe (8 MB) ] UNQUOTE

Lawrie.
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