Can't Log Into Vatnz In Squak Box!!!!

[Kelburn]

I just joined VATNZ (VATNZ only no membership with VATSIM if it helps)
and I started up FS2002 then squakbox then I went to the multiplayer section of fs2002 and logged in like you have to for fs2002 and then I tried to connect. I put in my call sign and aircraft etc. I then put in my password and CID number but when I click connect it comes up with a message saying:
"An error has occured in the Air Traffic Control server Invalid CID/password (240193)

I don't know why this is happening (this isn't a good start to my first time using multiplayer) can some one help i'm sure I'm putting in the right CID code thingy.

[ronwestnz]

You need to register with vatsim as well, the cid and password they give you is for their online network.

the vatnz login only works for their web site, not the vatsim online network.


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[Alex]

Yep, you only really need to be registered with VATSIM, the VATNZ site registration is optional, although is preferred.

Alex

[Kelburn]

O.k. I got onto multiplayer but when I tried to file a plan I didn't know what route to use!
How do I know what to put in?

[ZK-MAT]

http://www.vatnz.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=198

That's a start. It's a forum post on VATNZ which has links to routes

[ZK-Brock]

Kelburn, just saw you in Servinfo, howd the flight go? I'm open as Nelson tower if you're looking for some more ATC

[Kelburn]

I finished a bit erlier, and my first flight was pretty good (well for me at least) I have broken a new barrier in Flight Simulation (in total I've broken two (scenery design and multiplayer it's not much to boast about but oh well)

[ZK-Brock]

Great stuff man, I'm on as NZWN_TWR at the moment. I've helped one Newbie tonight, why not make it two?

[Kelburn]

Just wondering, but how do you become a controller? Do you need a seperate registration etc?

[ZK-Brock]

You use your same registration account, you have to go back into your account options and tick another box I think. After that you have to download the radar software and observe other controllers for at least 15 hours. Then you get in touch with the VATNZ people and you'll go through an exam.

But most people spend a good amount of hours flying online before they contemplate controlling. (I had 50 hours before I talked to the VATNZ staff)

[G-HEVN]

Do you get much VFR traffic on VATNZ? (mostly I fly VFR on VATUK atm, but assuming I can get up early - yeah right! - could always try a few NZ flights...)

[Kelburn]

I don't really know about how much traffic there usually is but anyway,
will newbie night tonight have lots of action and what time does it all start?

[ZK-Brock]

G-HEVN, there isn't as much VFR traffic as we'd like, perhaps even only one aeroplane a night. You'd be most welcome to come fly on NZ. Controllers are usually on each evening NZ time, but there are some who go on at other times. And even in the evening, some of us stay on the scope til 11pm or later, so you could fly with us mid-morning in UK time.

Kelburn, Newbie night hasn't really been all that successful so far as an event (not many controllers turn up), but there is a push for more to come on. I've had 3 new pilots recently on my frequencies, all have had an okay flight. You might find it easier to fly a simple VFR flight first, e.g. Wellington to Paraparaumu, when there's wellington tower on, which is most nights.

[Kelburn]

Going back to the routes,
someone I know who used to be a pilot gave me their old charts one of which is New Zealand routes, would that work?

[ZK-MAT]

Don't get too hung up on routes mate. You can just put DCT (direct) in your flight plan if you really want (usually more so for VFR).

In my experience the controllers will clear you for your planned route even if it's not 'real', as you file as per where you want to fly rather than strictly adhering to the real world routes. You may get asked to change your altitude if not complying though. Remember North Odd, South Even (NOSE). VFR are generally the same plus 500 feet (ie flying North you can choose 1500, 3500 etc).

Just have fun

[Kelburn]

actually concerning something else, I've turned off my AI fro multiplayer flying, but what happens when you leave it on e.g. at 100%.
Also would you recommend IVAO or VATSIM?

[Kelburn]

also in IVAO what happens a the person is flying an aircraft that you don't have?

[ZK-MAT]

You're full of questions there aren't ya!

1. Multiplayer / AI. When you connect to an online network it disables AI. There is no need to do this yourself.

2. Vatsim / IVAO. It's entirely up to you. I wouldn't say either one is better than the other, see what one you like.

3. IVAO uses a MTL (Multiplayer Traffic Library - correct me if I'm wrong Alex) to render planes. When you install the MTL you can choose what you want to install (to make it a smaller download). As a result the planes are modelled 'better' than Vatsim but the file sizes are bigger. In IVAO if you haven't downloaded a particular plane that someone is flying the program will attempt to match it with something that matches it for size and configuration.

Vatsim's Squawkbox and FSInn include all the planes you'll need but they don't always look as nice - particularly close up. If someone has misconfigured their selection they show up as a flying dart "?" question mark to you.

Regardless, *your* plane always looks good, to you.

[Kelburn]

sorry to be a bother,
but can you use fs2002 with IVAO?

[ZK-Brock]

No idea, about that, Alex should know . Like Matt said, don't get too hung up about your routes, but this may help:

NZ standard routes

This PDF contains the standard routes that you fly from one place to another. When it lists an airway, e.g. V393 or H151, it means you need to fly via the points on that airway, which can be found here:
Domestic IFR routes

Another good option (and easier option) for finding routes is to go to the NZ preferred routes page.

Brock