Flight Plan-movie

[brownbox]

has anyone else seen this? I saw it last night, and I was wondering, whats the plane, which the movie is set in? It has 4 engines, and two full stories of seats. So, I thought this must be the A380. Then I saw that there is a lounge, and the windows are a weird shape (kind of diamond?).

It was a great movie though- very shady hostess and air martial

[Jimmy]

yeah its a A380

rather amusin how at the end of the movie the nose gear simply calapses, and the flightdeck looks like that of a older boeing from what i remember lol

Its a crap movie anyway......

[Charl]

Well now I love to disagree with someone about a truly crappy movie
I sat through the bit where the "Engineer" expert (Jody Foster) expertly pronounced that this was the new Aloha 474, and loaded the snippet that she "worked on the engines"
This immediately qualified her for the rest of the movie to know where all the service hatches were in the airframe, and avionics racks, plus every function including which banana plug to pull to drop the oxygen masks etc etc ad nauseam.
When I returned she was giving the poor old Captain a hard time.
Uhh...2007? the Captain walks out of the office to pass the time of day with what could be someone about to blow up the plane???
<Spoiler> She ends up detonating a bomb just the other side of the bulkhead from her, only to emerge moments later, carrying her beloved daughter, through the smoky haze...I absolutely knew this was going to happen. Must've had a crash course in blowing things up while doing that "Engine job"

The movie was co-written, I discovered later.
In moviespeak this means: scriptwriter No. 1 has totally blown it but won't give up the screen credit.
Get the rescue team in, and pay 'em extra to justify the "co-written" monicker.
Neither of these guys knew the first thing about an aeroplane, and the whole show could've taken place in a ship, a large building, or a double decker bus.

[brownbox]

IMO, it was a pretty good movie. Isnt it strange how she knew the bomb would only blow the martial up and the upper floor, and not the whole plane?

Also, at the end we see the police with the hostess handcuffed walking past the captain and the main lady while they are in the airport. I thought the hostess got blown up with the other guy! I dunno, maybe I fell asleep for a breif moment then?

[brownbox]

A little off topic
Do A380's really have waterfalls and a lounge like the ad I saw on TV? Soudns like a bit of a waste of space

[Alex]

A little off topic
Do A380's really have waterfalls and a lounge like the ad I saw on TV? Soudns like a bit of a waste of space

In the real world they will almost certainly not. But it is possible to do it, they had a bar and lounge and stuff envisaged when the 747 first came out as well, but of course the airlines stuff the planes full of seats.

Alex

[G-HEVN]

So why didn't she get fired for poking her nose into every other system instead of concentrating on her own bifurcated impingement baffle, or whatever? Sure sign of a troublemaker IMO!

I've certainly passed the time of day with the captain of a 'umble Qantas 737 in the queue for the loo somewhere over the Tasman. Admittedly it was only 2006, and there wasn't some crazed lunatic banging on the door at the time!

While the lounge/bar-cum-waterfall may be nice in the brochures, show that space to an airline accountant, and to a man they'll say "you can't make $10000 business class per seat from a waterfall!"

Now, has anyone seen "Snakes on a Plane"?....

[ardypilot]

Dam I missed this movie- I always try and watch films involving aircraft purely for the aviation side of things.

I haven't seen Snakes on a Plane yet although I know how it ends <<SPOILER>> the pilot ends up getting killed and a passenger who has flight simulator experience steps up to land the jumbo! -do you think you could land an airliner if you had too? <<END OF SPOILER>>

'RED EYE' is a good plane flick, lots of action. 'Flight 93' is not worth seeing, I saw a documentary flight recreating of United 93 last year on prime which was way better... can't think of any others out the top of my head.

[G-HEVN]

I managed to land the Flight Experience 737... (was quite pleased, considering I've never flown the airliners in FS!)

[brownbox]

-do you think you could land an airliner if you had too?

Its hard to say really. Obviously someone who has played FS would know there was around the cockpit better, but when it comes to actually flying the plane I dont think it would make much of a difference how many sims youve played. Then on the other hand, you think, how hard can it be? Im sure if your life depends on it, youd pick it up somehow?

I definately wouldnt be able to-i can bearly land an airliner even in the sim! Lets the hope the pilot on my plane doesnt die

[ardypilot]

I managed to land the Flight Experience 737

Come to think of it me too- twice! First doing a touch and go at Whenuapi, then secondly doing a full stop at NZAA.

At NZWP I used ILS, and at NZAA I used ILS for the approach and landed it manually- quite pleased with myself I was, even though I had the help of the professional co-pilot, and had lots of practice inside FS... mind you, in a real life situation where you would be panicking and scared, it would be a completely different scenario!

Full report here: http://z11.invisionfree.com/nzff/index. ... topic=1207

[ZK-Brock]

There was an interesting long thread on PPRuNe a while ago discussing this. The general consensus was that so-called MSFS captains - those who fly in FS but not real life, would be unlikely to land the aeroplane correctly.

[Jimmy]

-do you think you could land an airliner if you had too?

yup easy, aircraft have autoland, once you understand how to use a complex autoflight system, as long as nothing gos wrong, you shoudl be fine But of course youd tell the pax you handflew it all the way

[JonARNZ]

There was an interesting long thread on PPRuNe a while ago discussing this. The general consensus was that so-called MSFS captains - those who fly in FS but not real life, would be unlikely to land the aeroplane correctly.

I'm not sure I would be worried about 'correctly' just as long as I could land it on the runway, and then stop before I run out of runway. I do know I would never try at NZWN, divert to Auck or Chch thanks I would need every inch of tarmac I could get.

[brownbox]

I reckon, you wouldnt be able to land it propperly, but you could give it a good shot

[ZK-Brock]

Yeah what I meant by correctly is "so that no-one gets hurt and they can use the aeroplane again". Bad choice of words.

The thread is http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=186340

[ardypilot]

I have created a poll in the general forum here to widen the debate