Adding on an aircraft carrier

[captain_bazza]

I have some modelling skills and an interest in naval history, so I'm keen to build one of the smaller WW2 carriers as trial project.

However, I don't have any skills relating to placing such a vessel in FSX and have it MOVE on a designated course and at a designated speed.

I have other projects on the go*, not related to FSX, so I wonder if I get around to building one of these carriers would someone might like to set it up in the sim? I also have had no experience converting over a model to the sim, so it should be an interesting project.


Preferences:
HMS Audacity, 11,000 tons, flight deck 140.2m x 18.29m, flush deck auxiliary carrier, no lifts.

USS Sangamon, 23,875 tons, flight deck approx 160m x 25m, two lifts.

Both vessels based on merchant ship hulls.

Cheers Bazza

PS I don't know why I'm doing this, I can't land the damned trike properly on a stationary carrier (flour bombing mission) let alone one that's moving.

*MSTS

[creator2003]

sounds like a really good challange ill help if i can when the time comes ...
mike..

[moeraki]

I would just like to vouch for Captain Bazza's Modelling abilities
He has an excellant track record of both Ships and Locomotives.

So if people can help it would be worth while
Moe (Peter)

[captain_bazza]

Thank you, much appreciated.

Cheers Bazza

[captain_bazza]

Hi Moe, BTW, I found them thar icebergs. Fly west from Momona, cross coast about Taieri mouth and head out for approx 20 minutes or so (in the Maule). You can still see the shoreline and Otago Peninsular, they are about SSW of it. They may be 'drifting' too.

Cheers Bazza

[JonARNZ]

Great concept, I'm sure we have the depth of experience on the forums to help make it a success.

[captain_bazza]

Here is something to keep note of. At Avsim's file libray they have a large motor launch you can drive, it's a lovely model and works well in the sim.

Now, I wonder (using a bit of lateral thinking) if you can pilot an aircraft carrier and have aircraft land on it, too? Perhaps there's a method of making it a 'non collision' event?

Cheers Bazza

[JonARNZ]

Here is something to keep note of. At Avsim's file libray they have a large motor launch you can drive, it's a lovely model and works well in the sim. 

Now, I wonder (using a bit of lateral thinking) if you can pilot an aircraft carrier and have aircraft land on it, too? Perhaps there's a method of making it a 'non collision' event? 

Cheers Bazza

Indeed, I have the launch in question, tis a nice model and uses some of the FSX features well.

You pose an interesting question, I see no reason why not in multiplayer as long as the deck is recognised as a landable moving surface, you can do in one of the missions landing an aircraft on a bus, hmm, now that would be interesting to try out, multiplayer Naval Airforce with a full fleet of aircraft and support ships...

[captain_bazza]

...as long as the deck is recognised as a landable moving surface,

..but the nub is, can you land one vehicle (aircraft) on another (ship), without the event being a collision? You would be aboard the carrier, therefore it would have to be a driveable job. Maybe you can, maybe not, but you don't know until you try, heh heh.

Cheers Bazza

[JonARNZ]

Yes, as I said one of the missions you need to land a plane on the roof of a bus, so I see no reason why you couldnt do this, the question is how. Its no different than landing on AI ships with Helipads, it must lie in the landable surface definitions I would say.

[Ian Warren]

Hey Cap Bazza , another cool idea , run short on carrier detail , info and photos have plenty here .

[captain_bazza]

Thanks Ian, carrier plans ideal, but not a necessity providing line drawings or photos available. What sort of resource material have you? I found some useful stuff about Sangamon online.

I suppose a good start would be to use the default FSX carrier as a guinea pig and get it moving in the sim somewhere handy to shore perhaps. I don't know if it's possible to designate a carrier as a start point?

Cheers Bazza

PS, I've no experience with modelling for MSFS, so have no idea of the maximum poly total and still have a reasonable frame rate.


http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... cve-26.htm

[captain_bazza]

TEV Rangatira, 1931, MSTS scenery model.
This a low poly/low detail (relatively high for MSTS) scenery model of the USSCo's Interisland Ferry, TEV 'Rangatira' of 1931, in which I had a crossing WN/LYT in 1964 when she was on relief for either 'Maori' or 'Hinemoa'. In '75 I travelled LYT/WN per the later 'Rangatira'. I was the first NZ r/o to work the new 'Rangatira' on her maiden voyage from the UK to NZ. She replaced the late lamented 'Wahine'.

Cheers Bazza



PS The MSTS model dates to 2003

[Ian Warren]

Rangatira ! Great Model ! think have the deck plans to that plus many photos , even a well doco'd pic off the Rangi in Picton Berthed along side the Maori at Xmas 59 . U may have the book ? .. I did see the Maori recall the rivets .. must have been thinkin aeroplane even then , the later(on bourd myself prob 74/75) Rangatira , last i veiwed that was in the 1982 Falkland war ! its shilloette is unmistakable .. your lite CEVs , sure have plenty off info and deck plans , the Battler or Archer type be good starter , i'll dig up what i have here maybe the Argus or the Langley be a good test model ? straight off memory i do no i have line side/top deck plan the Langley , little early CV1 but also have many pics . but maybe easier for first ?

USS Midway CVA41

[captain_bazza]

last i veiwed that was in the 1982 Falkland war ! its shilloette is unmistakable ..

Yes, it was used then. I remember the (overnight) trip well, it was exceptionally calm and when I awoke next morning the ship was already inside the heads and Wellington Harbour was like a millpond, as unbelievable as that may sound. In contrast, my first trip/only on the 'Hinemoa' was the opposite, she was pitchin' her head into the swell before she was past Godley Head. I was never seasick on any of the ferry crossings.

I was only 16 when I crossed on the 'Hinemoa' and I recollect several of the stewards looked rather strange to my young and innocent eyes......I realise now they were probably wearing makeup and lipstick, and I'm not referring to the stewardesses.

Ahhh, happy memories.

Cheers Bazza

[Ian Warren]

Hey Cap Bazza
Independence Class will suit better maybe , built on cruiser hulls , better alround photo , and easier for landin due to extra size? or heart set on Attacker Bogue/Casablanca class.
Let us no or PM maybe ,
Ian

[Ian Warren]

Little more Detailed than a CVE , but have a lot more photo resource on the type

[JonARNZ]

wow, nice 3 view. I really really hope this project takes off, no pun intended, it would be rather cool to see her or something similar sailing around our coastline. We could have forum flyin's on her...maybe...

[Ian Warren]

It is a Great idea , and thought to have it a workin/moving cycle would be a first

[captain_bazza]

Thanks Ian, I'll have another look in the library book, which I renewed yesterday.

Cheers Bazza