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Postby brownbox » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:27 pm

ooo hey thats a pretty cool site!
Thx :D
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Postby Zöltuger » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:32 pm

yeah, pricespy is the champion of computer parts. it really encourages competition- the retailers all reduce their prices to try and be the lowest for each product.
just be wary of buying on the cheap- only buy respectible brands from respectible stores.
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Postby Chookie » Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:52 pm

brownbox wrote: Just go shopping in the warehouse :lol:

Haha, Where everyone gets a rip-off.

Do they still have the little kiwi in the ads?

Anyway, there's nothing wrong with shopping at the Warehouse. Half the time, Warehouse stuff lasts longer than anything else.

My mum got her second computer (A Dell) from the Warehouse. Her first one was some-thing-i-cant-remember-the-name-of (From a Computer store) and it cracked after a few months.

Plus, she got the Dell a hell of a lot cheaper too!
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Postby brownbox » Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:02 pm

im just having a look at the 512 mb 7600 gs, and comparing to the 512mb x1600.

Ooo man, i cant wait till i finally buy my computer.

This seems like what its going to be: $650
AMD athlon 64bit AM2 3500+
Asrock AM2NF6G-VSTA nForce6100 AM2 mATX Dual Channel DDR2-800 PCI-E 16X SATA 2 & RAID
Geforce 6100 graphics card 128MB
512MB DDR2-667 RAM
80GB 7200rpm HDD
16xDual layer DVD Writer
400W ATX case with 2xfront usb ports

thats the main computer bit

then theres this: $180
http://www.nzoczone.com/product_info.ph ... ada6ff4925
or
http://www.nzoczone.com/product_info.ph ... ts_id=2214

and this: $140
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Soft ... 083233.htm

A grand total of $970. Its gonna cost $95 for another 512mb of RAM making it $1065. Then I just gotta find some "she'll be right" moniter, mouse and keyboard.

Soo, there we go! $1000 half decent computer :clap:

A good days work I say
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Postby Zöltuger » Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:04 pm

this site is useful for comparing performance of graphics cards
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics.html
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Postby brownbox » Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:07 pm

Oh yeah, are the video cards new? Do they come with all the software and cables?

My mum got her second computer (A Dell) from the Warehouse. Her first one was some-thing-i-cant-remember-the-name-of (From a Computer store) and it cracked after a few months.

Plus, she got the Dell a hell of a lot cheaper too!


I found out dells are cheap, and waste your money, the hard way :(
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Postby Zöltuger » Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:39 pm

if they're on pricespy they'll be new, and should come with software and cables
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Postby brownbox » Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:48 am

alright coool B)

The 7600GS beats the X1600, but it also costs $20 more... A $20 I dont have :(
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Postby creator2003 » Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:02 am

well id save $20 bucks extra and then buy the card you want if is only $20 then its worth doing some house chores to get the card you want not one that will do
as i said before you will kick yourself if 1 part could of only cost you 20 bucks extra to get the jars out ...
get your puter your looking at take the parts that you are not going to use /replace like old g/card and sell it and put that money towards the new one
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Postby brownbox » Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:00 pm

the geforce 6100? Thats the onboard stuck on the mobo :angry:
If only it wasnt... I could get some quick money. Remember, I dont actually have much money at all right now ($500), until I get my broken laptop to sell. By then, I shouldve saved up enough of my pay for an extra $20.

Oh man, buying a computer is more confusing and stressful than it sounded. Lets hope its a good one. Then I can finally get some decent games!! :plane: Hint hint, FSX :clap:
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Postby Bandit » Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:03 am

Well here's my two cents worth.

I upgraded last month from an old P3 1ghz machine. What I got was pretty much the same as what you are looking at. The main difference is I saved a bit more and got 1ghz of RAM.
My new board wouldn't take the old RAM so I couldn't use my existing stuff.

What the others have said about going for something with PCI-e is good advice. AGP is on the way out so by going with PCI-e you are future proofing. (Well as much as anybody can with a PC).

I decided to put up with the 6100 on board card until I can save a bit more for a seperate stand alone model. This being said I'm happy with the 6100. I only had a 64mb Nvidia card in my old system so it was a step up anyway.

I was able to use the case, power supply and HDD from my old machine which saved a little bit.

Anybody want to buy a motherboard, graphics card and some RAM? It's a never ending cycle isn't it.
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Postby brownbox » Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:07 pm

hey bandit, does a ssystem like this make a bit of heat? Noticed that the computer im getting has just 2 fans (+1 on the video), but that doesnt sound like many. Also, how much do fans cost and how easy are they to add? Thanks
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Postby Bandit » Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:17 pm

Well I can't toast marshmallows on it or fry an egg on the case. :P

To be honest I don't know. I'm relying on the shop that put it together to have got it right. When I get a chance I'll pop the hood, have a look and let you know how many fans are in there.

The fans I've seen don't cost much. I saw an additional fan that can be inserted into a spare slot on your motherboard last week for under $30.00 I think the price was. But I'm not a Tech so there may be other things to consider like the size of your power supply and the loading on it.

I could have got the Techs at my work who normally do any stuff for me to assemble the whole thing but they were a tad busy at the time so I got the shop to supply, install, reconfigure plus some other bits and pieces for $700 all up and that way if there were any teething problems they carried the can. But so far so good.

I bought the power supply off them 12 months ago when it was needed for the old rig. They offered to give me a credit against it if the new rig needed a bigger one so that shows one advantage of dealing with a specialist store.

As an asside I can run FS9 with all the settings maxed and I get an average of 25-30fps with no skipping in a MD500e Helo VC view and around 40fps on the default Cessna spot view, so my little Rotorhead self is happy with that. A gruntier GPU will give me some more I guess.
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Postby Blackmagic » Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:52 am

brownbox wrote: until I get my broken laptop to sell.

Oh man, buying a computer is more confusing and stressful than it sounded. Lets hope its a good one. Then I can finally get some decent games!! :plane: Hint hint, FSX :clap:

If your Laptops broken you wont get much if anything for it! But then again you could repair it with that batch thats appearing on trademe or the ones from the bloke in the Pub in Christchurch ;)

Computer buying stressful? Get a way with you :P remmeber my first Computer :ph43r:

ZX81 which my brother upstaged me and got a ZX spectrum B) year later I got my revenge with a Spectrum Plus :thumbup: Oh to have had a commodore 64 though :blink:
Yes those were the days when you spent hours writing a code to get a programme to work then found you missed a digit/letter or icon. Then you saved them to a Audio cassette which made this elctronic noise when you loaded your games to the Computer :drool: oh what fun :wub:

Then came the big advance with Microsoft releasing windows 95 and a new breed of Computer :ph43r: The old celeron proccessors with 32mb Ram as state of the art until the next month when another leap in proccessor or Ram power came about!

Oh memories with sibling revailry! The bro got a PC wih a 32mb Ram then a week later I upstaged him with a 64mb Ram :blink: the choice was 20GB hardrive or the RAM! Those were the days 10GB saw you through...just.

Now look at us :plane:

Still use my old windows 98 dinosaur! Which has outlasted my most recent Compaq and still has its uses playing Games that XP wont recognise! Pretty Basic games compared to today but classics all the same that give hours of enjoyment especially the Star Trek Strategy game "Birth of the Federations" heck that game is more addictive than computer chess :ph43r:

So you think its a hard choice choosing a PC?
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Postby Bandit » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:07 am

Good one Blackmagic. Now that brings back some memories.

Loading up those cassettes that you stored your games and stuff on. You could go have a Mello Yello, solve the Rubics cube and listen to some Talking Heads on the boom box you carried on your shoulder. And don't get me started on the cost per litre for petrol.

Then when you came back the game may have, if you were lucky, got half way through loading up or the machine had eaten the cassette. Then we thought we had it made when 5¼ diskettes came along.
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Postby ZK-MAT » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:32 am

Bandit wrote:Then when you came back the game may have, if you were lucky, got half way through loading up or the machine had eaten the cassette. Then we thought we had it made when 5¼ diskettes came along.


Oh so true.

I so wanted a ZX81, I used to spend ages in a computer-type shop in Hamilton (below Centreplace I think it was) looking at it and dreaming.

My mate got a C16 soon after that, we were so geeky, figuring out how to program it in BASIC... the hours spent typing 10/20/30/start/run/if/then/goto... then he had a Vic 20, then a C64 then an Amiga!!! Man his parents were so rich I thought.

Then the IBM PC's came out and ... clones as they were known then. That is they weren't IBM so somehow were deemed inferior. XT's, AT's, 286, 386 etc etc.

Look at the bargains from NZ PC World March 1996. user posted image

Yep, 166mHZ processors, MASSIVE 1.5 gig HDD and ass kicking 16mb RAM!!

I don't think today's youth can complain about technology cost or availability, however I shudder when I think of where we could be in 10 more years time...
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Postby HardCorePawn » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:37 am

You could go have a Mello Yello


You still can :) mmmmmmm so glad they bought it back for summer....
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Postby Blackmagic » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:48 am

Oh blimey Matt, My work threw a load of those out this winter I have two of them things up and running with my old 256 ram from my dead compaq. One upgraded to XP no problems the other wont due to hardrive being 10GB.

And I still have my Spectrum plus although the power supply cable is a bit dodgy.
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Postby brownbox » Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:21 pm

QUOTE 
You could go have a Mello Yello



You still can  mmmmmmm so glad they bought it back for summer....


Damn, I couldnt find one at the dairy on Sunday :(
They do taste good though...

Also, anyone know where all the windows Xp went on trademe?? I had one on my watchlist, was going to buy it tonight, then I get a nasty suprise that it was removed. Also, looking through the listings theres hardly any there. Damn to hell, now I have to spend another $50 for windows from the computer shop :angry:

Haha, yes I know im complaining about nothing, but ahh well :clap:
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Postby Zöltuger » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:08 pm

$50 sounds cheap, at least you're not planning to upgrade to vista- its going to be up to $600 for vista ultimate at retail :o
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