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[Zenith]

I did not see anything negative in the posts so far?

I agree with Blackmagic though that unless there is something to show for it before annoucing to the world then Ben should use a bit of Caution! Now I see a Forum page has been set up well thats the easy bit

Now comes the hard work and commitment!

Words of caution and that is dont go linking to repaints from other people unless you have the permission to do so.

[ZK-MAT]

Nobody has asked so I will .... I can't access the site anymore, says that the page is not found?

[Codge]

Same here,I can't get through either. Maybe getting updated or something.
My earlier piont is that we (Fanatical NZ FS supporters) should (and are) encourage and support people who take the plunge and try to make our FS world an even better place. An old cliche "If you don't have something nice to say then don't say anything at all". Making 'grandiose' announcements of something that is about to happen is known as 'advertising' and even 'expression of interest'.
Stating the obvious about 'now comes the hard work' and seen it all before. None of the comments made are downright offensive but some are hardly what might be deemed to be 'encouraging'.
It is quite common for a couple or group of people to discuss an idea and then say 'let's do it'. They all agree 'yeah let's,then comes the time when some are actually required to do something or come up with some money and one by one come the excuses and the 'sorry something else has "come up"' and one guy (or girl) will be holding the baby. In this case it is a chap named Ben. My guess is that he will need all the help and encouragment he can get.
Knowing that the users of this forum are keen Helo pilots and that a look in the new Virtual Air NZ 'hangar does not seem to cater for us there. I hope this can be rectified,so the comments and suggestions bit will be the place for me to comment won't it? or do I just make a post here complaining that I won't join because there isn't any Helo's?
It is a long standing Kiwi tradition to do what can't be done and to succeed against all odds. Put simply there are those who do and those who do not-which one are you?

[Zenith]

Sounds like Codge just volunteered to get that site up and running

Or is it part of that other kiwi tradition of letting someone else do the hard work and then saying we done it? Seems like you want mostly helos so maybe that could kill interest.

[ZK-MAT]

It's back!!

Maybe change the banner link though - it heads to http://www.yabbforum.com/

[Codge]

No I love them both equally, I just remember Natas wanting to be a personal Helo pilot for the boss! It would be good tho if everyone is catered for.
Yes I think you are right. Like the Allblacks-they lost against Sth Africa but we beat Aussie. Note how when they lose it is 'they'. When they win it is 'us' or 'we'!
Remember a few weeks back when we were talking about VANZ in that other thread and someone suggested starting a new Virtual Air NZ from scratch,well it looks like someone has 'picked up the ball'. I did briefly look at doing just that,and it didn't take long at all to find out I was in no position to do it (But I'm happy to help others where I can) I found I would need an expensive server and all sorts of other stuff I've never heard of,plus all the time to run it.
From what I can gather, the successful ones are run by a team of good dedicated people. I don't have the computer skills yet to do that sort of thing.
I am happy to fly the planes on offer at the new VANZ tho,please don't get me wrong there, I even have the PMDG 737 and it will be good to have a reason to get really familiar with it, I prefer flying my sim over reading manuals for hours which is why I have sort of neglected it to date. I will have to learn about programming the FMC.
I'm quite looking foward to this airline and I'll wait as long as it takes to get up and running.
And if they delegate me a task I'll do that too. I'm quickly realizing how little I know about VA's, I do know I need to brush up on my Radio handling and speaking the right words at the right time!
It never ceases to amaze me how FSimmers spend so many hours working on different projects, all free of charge. Maybe it gives some of us a false sense that it is easy and nuthin to it. I know I've said enough already so I'll just wait patiently and try and learn some things I'm going to need.

[squirrel350]

Is there any further news on "The New Virtual Air New Zealand" or has the plan been flushed down the dunny ????? just curious cos there hasnt been any updates in a week or two.

[Mike M]

Is there any further news on "The New Virtual Air New Zealand" or has the plan been flushed down the dunny ????? just curious cos there hasnt been any updates in a week or two.

From what I can gather I think Ben has flushed the idea.

[squirrel350]

Bugger what a shame that is.

[ardypilot]

Oh well, at least we have the NZFF Aero Club running to keep the GA pilots satisfied...

[ZK-MAT]

hehe, contempt or content ...

similiar spelling but quite different in meaning

[Codge]

Did he say he has 'flushed' the idea Mike? Maybe something has happened and he can't get to a computer,or he could be in hospital or arrested or anything! Time will tell.
I remember at the beginning of the year when we had the annual 'round the world' race between Flightsim.com vs Avsim and Sim outhouse and we were all very active in the forums talking about it and then on the day and the duration of the race (5 days) one particular chap was not heard from which was most suprising cos' he had so much to say in the weeks leading up to. Turns out he had a heart attack the night before the race started!
However if the new VANZ boss is a young guy he may not have realised what he was getting into,but he should still let us know out of courtesey, well we'll see it's still early days yet.

[ardypilot]

hehe, contempt or content ...

similiar spelling but quite different in meanin

Whoops- my bad!

I have edited my post incase my English teacher happened to see it and kicked me out of the top A-band English class

On the topic of going off topic- where can I find that 'Pirate Airlines' repaint in you sig Matt?

[ZK-MAT]

I haven't quite finished it but will do next week. We are just about to head off to Auckland for the weekend.

[aviator]

Hi Guys,

I have semi designed and completed the new VANZ website and i'm just in the process of completing the PIREP SYSTEM, but I have not had time to upload it.. due to exams etc and study. Once the website is uploaded, it should be fairly maintainance free.. apart from the flight plan checks.

Also is anybody willing to give me a hand with the PIREP SYSTEM? CODGE??

Cheers Ben

[snowflake]

Funny I am sure I posted a response

If the moderators want to remove a post then have the courtesy of letting us know the reason. Whilst we are at it maybe a certain moderator keeps his own opinions to himself rather than airing his own dirty linen on here.

[Charl]

Yo Snowflake
Read the tone of these Forums mate.
They are meant to be constructive.
If you have a personal grievance use PM.
If you have a positive contribution to make we'd all like to hear it.
Look forward to hearing some good stuff from you.

[Codge]

So you havn't had a heart attack then aviator? Exams and study? When I was a schoolboy exams were in November.During your 5 week absence NZFF formed it's own aeroclub, and I personally downloaded and installed the excellent GNZLAP.
You have been asked questions and you don't answer them, other posts have dissed your modus opperandi, I am stating facts, and in 5 weeks I have moved on and enjoy flying with the GNZLAP pilots the best, it's so very Zen! You are too busy to be starting and running a VA. Shelve it for a year or 3 and ask yourself why you really want to do this.

[Blackmagic]

Aviator, You do realise that a automated pirep system is the reason most VAs collapse?

To get a functional pirep system which saves you hours of the precious time you need to concentrate on eaxams for. You will neeed to spend some hard cash.

Personnalyy I do not feel there is that much call for another VA, just one thats kept up to date. Thats the hard bit.

[aviator]

just to let you know, i do have a pirep system.. and it's very stable.. as i said.. my website is finished