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by **Charl** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:29 am

SUBS17 wrote:
QUOTE(SUBS17 @ Sep 21 2007, 06:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why would that be? Not all countries F-16s carry brake chutes most of them don't as the F-16 uses aerobraking to slow down.(minimum is 3000ft or 914m) Ohakea runway 15/33 is 7000ft long with a landing distance of 5000ft.

Ah it's an in-joke, you obviously don't have the RNZAF AI packagr for Ohakea.
The HTAI F-16 models have a penchant for landing and then rolling out over 8,000ft.

by **Charl** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:36 am

Naki wrote:
QUOTE(Naki @ Sep 20 2007, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
............next up the Saab Draken.
Sort of Sweden's equivalent to the Lightning but smaller and lighter but still damn fast and the wing platform has hints of the Vulcan (should of had a Danish one with the NATO - Cold War theme but I only had neutral Finnish and Austrian ones).

I could never figure out how the Swedes could support such a sophisticated aerospace industry.
Turns out they were given free access to the best technology that the US had on offer, in exchange for looking after the Polaris subs off the Swedish west coast...
Now General Motors owns SAAB.

by **Naki** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:52 am

Charl wrote:
QUOTE(Charl @ Sep 21 2007, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I could never figure out how the Swedes could support such a sophisticated aerospace industry.
Turns out they were given free access to the best technology that the US had on offer, in exchange for looking after the Polaris subs off the Swedish west coast...
Now General Motors owns SAAB.

I didnt know that about the subs.

GM own the Saab car company not the aerospace Saab check this out.. BAe did have a shareholding of Saab Group at one stage but I don't think this no longer the case. I am a big fan of the Gripen - cheapish, compact and versatile although no SU-27 beater.

by **Charl** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:05 am

Good link, thanks Paul.
Good thing for aerospace, SAAB cars has been bleeding red ink ever since GM arrived, $500m this year alone.
I think BAe brokered the South African export deal for Gripen.
You're right about it I reckon, it's another in the mould of the F-16 - small agile cheap and focussed, with plenty of room to grow.

by **ardypilot** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:54 pm

Awesome lightning series Charl- that was another jet parked up at Hendon which I saw. I remember the pointy nose cone being very distinctive, but we didn't get to go inside that one.

by **SUBS17** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:19 am

Charl wrote:
QUOTE(Charl @ Sep 25 2007, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ah it's an in-joke, you obviously don't have the RNZAF AI packagr for Ohakea.
The HTAI F-16 models have a penchant for landing and then rolling out over 8,000ft.

LMAO I think that FM must need some work then.

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:02 am

Naki wrote:
QUOTE(Naki @ Sep 22 2007, 08:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fiddler - the Russian fighter as big as a bomber?

Paul .. missed this ... Yes a mini-me to the TU22 , the Tupolev TU28 Fiddler , designed earlier than latter and 26 meters long and plan form very similar shape .

by **Charl** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:35 am

Another Cold Warrior:

I'll add slices from to time if no-one gets it...

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:47 am

KHRUSHCHEV is coming to town !

The Marx-Leninism teachers to show us there Great planes

The Civy BEAR , amazing planes ! on approach to Christchurch .

I had Khrushchev and Lenonard 'dancing' Brezhnev ... No that was Boris Yeltsin .. maybe I'll get a pic latter of the Russian heads of state .

Typical Russian .. for FS9 users , as u climb above the 20,00 level or depends on setting the cockpit windscreen ices

In the VC

Touchdown ..
The next morning .. Heads of state leave for Wellington

This is freeware and have some brilliant features

by **SUBS17** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:49 am

Nice shots that bear has a cool pit where do you get it from?

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:52 am

Charl wrote:
QUOTE(Charl @ Sep 26 2007, 11:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Another Cold Warrior:

Love them North American A5 Vigilante's and to get them off and ON carriers ..

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:57 am

SUBS17 wrote:
QUOTE(SUBS17 @ Sep 26 2007, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nice shots that bear has a cool pit where do you get it from?

Google ' Samdim Design Bureau'

by **Charl** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:58 am

Heck that is a BIG plane, wonder how the noise levels are internally with those many contra-rotating fans.
Great series Ian, loved the icy windscreen, quite authentic, I've seen it on approach to NZCH in a Convair

which scared me only after I thought about it a bit.

by **Charl** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:04 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE(Ian Warren @ Sep 22 2007, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Love them North American A5 Vigilante's and to get them off and ON carriers ..

Aargh! I really am going to post just a wheelnut for you next time...

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:20 pm

Charl wrote:
QUOTE(Charl @ Sep 26 2007, 11:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Heck that is a BIG plane, wonder how the noise levels are internally with those many contra-rotating fans.Great series Ian, loved the icy windscreen, quite authentic, I've seen it on approach to NZCH in a Convairwhich scared me only after I thought about it a bit.

Point plane down if in Arctic , Antarctic , Sweden , Swizz , Himilayer'ers and the Southern Alps to get ICE on the windscreen

Charl wrote:
QUOTE(Charl @ Sep 27 2007, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aargh! I really am going to post just a wheelnut for you next time...

mmmm

maybe not .. I probally make emm

by **Naki** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:43 pm

Cool series Ian - the Civvy Bear looks great - Charl had the Vigilante in mind for a series of shots

but have some others planned - I await yor shots with interest (off a carrier?) - also interesting shot of the CV-580.

by **Charl** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:36 pm

Naki wrote:
QUOTE(Naki @ Sep 22 2007, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Cool series Ian - the Civvy Bear looks great - Charl had the Vigilante in mind for a series of shots but have some others planned - I await yor shots with interest (off a carrier?) - also interesting shot of the CV-580.

No no I got sidetracked here, after you sir!
I was going to look for my Victor bomber to formate with the other Brits

by **ardypilot** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:28 pm

Wow, I had no idea there were this many Cold War aircraft available for flightsim!

I only knew about Samdim's Antonov An-148, and that was it

so I'm finding this thread very interesting.

by **Ian Warren** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:58 pm

WHAT am i doing with a complete flight Manual to a C141A Starlifter .. off course .. No one wants them anymore !

Airshow on .. the B36 broke down , Logistics , 50's parts in a 60's plane .... spark plug . ....... s .. Gear retract ok , last time lost bogie carridge on rwy 20 ,no hassel

by **Ian Warren** » Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:41 pm

THE COLD WARS " BIG STICK" - The General Dynamics (Convair) B36 Peacemaker

Avro Lancaster had to be very heavy'lly modified so to carry 1X22.000 pound 'Gram Slam' bomb - the largest bomb operational bomb used at the end of WW2 , this aircraft had the abillity to carry 2 .. no modification .

looking at this , 6 X 3500 hp 28 cylinder-4 bank Pratt and Whitney Radials and 4 GE-J47 5.200lb Jets , u maybe can see why

The most armed bomber ever , protected 16 20mm cannons 6 turrets retract

So of we go , sound is very unmistakable , another little trick was the carry a Fighter , The XF-85Goblin , failed .. as did 'FICON' using GRF-84 .

Hey Idea !

What if we make an aircraft NUCLEAR powered

Indeed a B36 carried a reactor , not operational.... WOW , think few people then really were thinking proper !

So on with the airshow and the Peacemaker on its last flypast ,

NZFF

The Soviets are invading!

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