Short Sunderland

[AndrewJamez]

I remmember seeing one of these up at the motat air museum being restored, that was 10 years or so ago, anyone care to give an update?

[Ian Warren]

I think she still outside , i do believe a hanger is currently getting built , i got on board her 1987 and have a photo putting the true size off a depth charge racks .

[Wildbillkelso]

QUOTE (Splitpin @ Jan 15 2011, 09:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

FCS?....normally their stuff is pretty good...ie , Wellington, and Hurricane....

Can't judge upon their Wimpy, but their Hurricane really dissappointed me. I bought the boxed version and came across the Robert Sanderson freeware 'Cane a little later ... never used the FCS version since then!
Just some other €uros down the drain...

The Sunderland might not be one the most elegant flying boats, but this flying boiler looks ridiculous!

Cheers,
Markus.

[scrubcutter]

QUOTE (Wildbillkelso @ Jan 16 2011, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Can't judge upon their Wimpy, but their Hurricane really dissappointed me. I bought the boxed version and came across the Robert Sanderson freeware 'Cane a little later ... never used the FCS version since then!
Just some other €uros down the drain...

The Sunderland might not be one the most elegant flying boats, but this flying boiler looks ridiculous!

Cheers,
Markus.

I wont be getting anything from these clowns again. To call themselves 'First Class' is a bit of an exaggeration. Their Lancaster was abysmal, didn't even have a visible tail section from the VC, amongst a whole raft of other issues, and no reply from them when questioned about it. For a Brit company they should be tried for sedition for sabotaging such legendary British icons

[Splitpin]

Scrub man, and Markus.....i concede......as much as i hate to slag off anyone's work.....i agree. (with your comments on the FCS product)

The Robert Sanderson Hurricane is just magic, and way ahead of its time when released....and the Lanc...well, i thought the externals where nice and the vc was good for screening. I guess it depends on how immersed you are in the f/s world.

But, if you are going to charge for a product, then it should be 100%....or at least offer a reasonable excuse for why it isnt.

This hobby (flightsim) , is hypercritical (not hypocritical) of many aspects of simming....and rightfully so.....a lot of hard earned cash is thrown at this virtual world we enjoy....so , you would think the people who charge for their products would look at whats acceptable by the f/s community , and adjust. (Some sites that charge you to download freeware also #### me off)

I spent some time with Ian Warren this afternoon, and saw the packaging for the Sunderland.....and to be honest , its misleading advertising (my opinion....So sue me) nothing like the flying brick wall you actually get.

So far he (Ian) has had no response from the company....just like you Scrubcutter....so , like you guys, I'll give this crowd a wide berth from now on.

[scrubcutter]

QUOTE (Splitpin @ Jan 17 2011, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Scrub man, and Markus.....i concede......as much as i hate to slag off anyone's work.....i agree. (with your comments on the FCS product)

The Robert Sanderson Hurricane is just magic, and way ahead of its time when released....and the Lanc...well, i thought the externals where nice and the vc was good for screening. I guess it depends on how immersed you are in the f/s world.

But, if you are going to charge for a product, then it should be 100%....or at least offer a reasonable excuse for why it isnt.

This hobby (flightsim) , is hypercritical (not hypocritical) of many aspects of simming....and rightfully so.....a lot of hard earned cash is thrown at this virtual world we enjoy....so , you would think the people who charge for their products would look at whats acceptable by the f/s community , and adjust. (Some sites that charge you to download freeware also #### me off)

I spent some time with Ian Warren this afternoon, and saw the packaging for the Sunderland.....and to be honest , its misleading advertising (my opinion....So sue me) nothing like the flying brick wall you actually get.

So far he (Ian) has had no response from the company....just like you Scrubcutter....so , like you guys, I'll give this crowd a wide berth from now on.

Yeah, I hate to run down developers in such a difficult and narrow market but they haven't done themselves any favours. At least we have other great developers like A2A, VRS, Carenado, Capt Sim, etc etc to compensate for the shoddy ones!

[Ian Warren]

Following up , i do wonder if the PC PILOT no,s anything about the type , course looks like the pictures have been doctored again !





Who was this Adam Cotton ? , maybe he should learn more about the type before hyping the type
And no word as yet from the devolpers , no returned email , .. Shame on you !

Maybe something could come off this , hells we have the largest percentage off Sunderland aircrew here to test it

So Far very Un

[Splitpin]

75!! out of what ?

[NormNZ]

Jeez Ian you know how to upset me - was still recovering from your January presentation of this aircraft and you bring it up again!!!!
We certainly have a mixture of Mk111 and MarkV's in the review. I like the last pic showing ASV6 domes under the wings as well as the old ASV amtenna on the fuselage in front of the tailplane. It didn't happen that way!!!!!

Norm

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (Splitpin @ May 17 2011,4:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

75!! out of what ?

I,m not sure on that one , maybe thats what they rate it , be good if someone shed some light on that one , first time i have brought the mag .

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (NormNZ @ May 17 2011,6:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It didn't happen that way!!!!!

Norm yeah i no , I sent messages to the group months pre release as it was only a Mk3 .. then released as a Mk5 ? the entire package and group are , well .. you no how i feel