FSX - It's Quite Amazing

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Postby 617sticks » Thu May 13, 2010 11:10 pm

A Story first: In 1943 Lancaster ED930 "Queenie VI" flew from Prestwick (Scotland) to RAAF Amberley in Queensland to begin war bond duties. It was flown by Peter Isaacson who lives in Melbourne. Here is a link to my web page on this flight:

[url=http://www.netleygrove.net\FlightSimulation\Lancaster.html]http://www.netleygrove.net\FlightSimu...;Lancaster.html[/url]

You will note Queenie VI also flew across the Tasman and back for war bond duties in New Zealand as well. I have not been able to find any details of the actual "missions" or the route in and out, other than it began from Laverton in Victoria and returned there.

I visited Warbirds Over Wanaka in 2002 and this partly fueled an interest in simulation. Here is a link to a short extract from my DVD. If you play the file you will understand how one can be turned on by such a show.

http://www.netleygrove.net/post/WarbirdsOverWanaka.wmv

I decided as far back as FS2002 to fly a Lancaster from Australia to Queenstown. So now, in 2010, why not do it in FSX, get some third party mesh of the South Island, download Wanaka and Queestown and fly in for a 3 day show. FSX is the be-all-end-all of Microsoft simulators. But in what aircraft?

Lancaster R5868 "S for Sugar" flew 68 missions as OL-Q "Queenie" with RAF 83 Squadron before being transferred to 467 Squadron RAAF as "S for Sugar". There is no sim version of ED930 Queenie VI. So this Lancaster R5686 is my choice to fly in from Australia for the next Warbirds over Wanaka Air Show.

My first waypoint on the NZ mainland enroute to Queenstown is Milford Sound and this time I decided to do a emergency landing so as to view the scenery at closer quarters. My gosh what a surprise it was to see this "FSX moonscape" through the windshield.





The Milford Sound runway is really too small to put a Lancaster down on, particularly on 2 engines, but in a sim you live to continue on IF you get it wrong. I flew to the Wanaka Airshow from Queenstown for a low pass demonstration on two engines. Starting at R29 and the image from my Gold stand position is my entry for this months (May) screen grab competition. I repeat it here for continuity of this little story.



Crazy, not so! Have you seen the image of an Avro Lincoln on one engine just as low, or maybe even a bit lower, where the caption read "Lets hope the photographer was short ..." Fortunately sitting in the Gold stand at Wanaka I or you, will not have that problem.
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Postby Ian Warren » Fri May 14, 2010 1:40 am

Aeroplane Heaven Lanc in FSX , Stick you would love the later recent release for FSX , The First Class Simulations Lancaster . Im sure I kicked S-Sugars tires at the Canberra War Memorial Museum or was that G-George , cant recall
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Postby creator2003 » Fri May 14, 2010 11:00 am

Very cool ,next time you pop into milford download this scenery http://nzff.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6241 it should fix the elevation probs and add some custom buildings for you
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Postby 617sticks » Fri May 14, 2010 2:33 pm

creator2003 wrote:
QUOTE (creator2003 @ May 14 2010, 08:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very cool ,next time you pop into milford download this scenery http://nzff.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6241 it should fix the elevation probs and add some custom buildings for you



Thanks creator2003. However the file when downloaded (twice) was said to be non compliant or corrupt by my XP. Nice pictures of what might have been achievable.

Not going to make a practice of flying a Lanc into there, its tricky but achievable even on two

Thanks again
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Postby toprob » Fri May 14, 2010 2:44 pm

So I don't go too far off-topic, I won't post the screenshot here, but I will point to it -- Milford Sound in VLC.
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Postby 617sticks » Fri May 14, 2010 3:41 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ May 13 2010, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aeroplane Heaven Lanc in FSX , Stick you would love the later recent release for FSX , The First Class Simulations Lancaster . Im sure I kicked S-Sugars tires at the Canberra War Memorial Museum or was that G-George , cant recall



G'day Ian

George in Canberra, Q or S is in London at Hendon, a big cockpit image is hanging on my den wall.

No way a FSC Lancaster, it seems to be a poor representation of the reality of WWII. Yes I know PC Pilot said it was great (they were very careful in the way it was visually presented) but I am not paying money for something that does not fly as well as my Plane-Design Lancasters OR has some questionable errors in the cockpit. How do I know without buying? I have a friend in the Netherlands who flys Lancs almost as much as I do and he has compared ........... Plane-Design's research is basically spot on for the war era Lancs and my conversion from FS2004 works. Heaven is a modified Plane-Design Lancaster!

Here is an example: after takeoff and for the climb you set a max of +9 boost at 2850 RPM and then you fly the Lancaster by setting boost and reducing engine RPM to achieve a recommended AP 2062-PN cruise speed. Doing that sort of proper flying is not part of the deal it seems. I guess its just bang open the throttles and as long as it goes up and comes down it is fine because it "flys". QED

The Wanaka Air Show display shot is at +20 feet, 140IAS, +9 boost, 2850 RPM, the return pass was faster and higher with bombay doors open on 4 engines and the final pass a touch and go (everything down) then back to Queenstown, a nice little round trip and good for the spectators (none, LOL).

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Postby creator2003 » Fri May 14, 2010 3:45 pm

The file name mite have changed on download ,just rename the zip file or make sure its named " MilfordSoundX_V2.zip "
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Postby 617sticks » Fri May 14, 2010 3:48 pm

toprob wrote:
QUOTE (toprob @ May 14 2010, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I don't go too far off-topic, I won't post the screenshot here, but I will point to it -- Milford Sound in VLC.



Thanks toprob

Obviously I do not have the right set up, ah well one is stuck with what one has I guess.

Nice image just like I would have expected.

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Postby 617sticks » Fri May 14, 2010 3:54 pm

creator2003 wrote:
QUOTE (creator2003 @ May 14 2010, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The file name mite have changed on download ,just rename the zip file or make sure its named " MilfordSoundX_V2.zip "



yep that is what I have.

Thanks
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Postby 617sticks » Sat May 15, 2010 7:38 pm

toprob wrote:
QUOTE (toprob @ May 14 2010, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I don't go too far off-topic, I won't post the screenshot here, but I will point to it -- Milford Sound in VLC.


I went and got the Trislander out of my FS2004 hangar and flew in and out of Milford Sound in FS2004, some comparison!



Well at least the runway is down where it should be and not 800 feet higher........?????

So the question I ask of you is where do I access this VLC you mention (what ever that means) so that I do not have to fly in c..p like the above OR the FSX stuff at the head of this thread?

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