Calculating fuel

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Postby NZ255 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:51 am

Not sure weather this has been asked before, but does anyone know how to calculate fuel for a specific flight, or a tool that does it for you.

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Postby benwynn » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:09 am

Find out how many Kgs per hour the aircraft burns then go from there. Search on Google..
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Postby NZ255 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:19 am

benwynn wrote:
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Find out how many Kgs per hour the aircraft burns then go from there. Search on Google..


Ok what about reserves, how many hours extra? 1 hour?


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Postby NZ255 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:28 am

Does 6,000kgs/hour sound about right for b767? Only article I could find.


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Postby Alex » Wed Dec 19, 2007 11:47 am

For the reserves, I believe it is enough to reach your alternate, plus 30mins (or 1 hour?) extra.

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Postby Charl » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:07 pm

Well assuming you have a flight plan:



you'd select your aircraft, click on "Nav Log" and get some flight details:



This one is for an A380.
A SIA 260 would tend to use a little less fuel, but may need a stop or two:



You might repeat the exercise for your divert airport, plus 30 min reserve.
Quick calc for the Airbus above shows 6,000gph so add 3,000gals.
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Postby benwynn » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:15 pm

Sorry Charl, but you cant trust the FS9 Fuel Planner.. :P

Yes, It depends on your alternate. I normally carry around 1 hour extra fuel..
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Postby Alex » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:21 pm

I usually just chuck in what seems a good amount, I usually just fly regional routes so it's not so much of a biggie for me. For example, in the Beech I just chuck in 35-40%. :P

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Postby Charl » Wed Dec 19, 2007 12:25 pm

benwynn wrote:
QUOTE (benwynn @ Dec 19 2007, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry Charl, but you cant trust the FS9 Fuel Planner.. :P
Yes, It depends on your alternate. I normally carry around 1 hour extra fuel..

Yes I'd heard it wasn't too reliable, but hey, it's a flightsim:
<Pause>
<alt>/A/F
Top up tank
<Unpause>
Land as if nothing happened, just make sure no-one was watching the middle bit...
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Postby creator2003 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:26 pm

And there is payware out there for this aswell from Aerosoft Website

Flight Calculator
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TIME / SPEED / DISTANCE

* Calculate Speed
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WIND

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* Local time / GMT time shown
* Calculate time enroute
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* Landing Runway Length Needed
* Takeoff Runway Length Needed
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* Descent Profile
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* Begin Descent Point[/quote]

and for a good price for what it does thats if you really want to get into that sort of thing
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Download-Version: (4.1 MB) EUR 12.95[/quote]
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Postby benwynn » Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:30 pm

I do beleive simpilot magazine gave me a free copy of that software. But, I plan manually anyway :P
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Postby Q300 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:05 pm

Alex wrote:
QUOTE (Alex @ Dec 19 2007, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I usually just chuck in what seems a good amount, I usually just fly regional routes so it's not so much of a biggie for me. For example, in the Beech I just chuck in 35-40%. :P

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Yup same here, usaly makes it with about 15% spear :D
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Postby Alex » Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:44 pm

Q300 wrote:
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Yup same here, usaly makes it with about 15% spear :D

Hahaha yea, works well huh? :lol:

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Postby benwynn » Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:48 pm

Who Plans fuel in a B1900D anyway :P
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Postby Alex » Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:49 pm

Answer from a B1900D captain (RW) when asked about how much fuel they had on board: "Oh plenty, no worries about that!". :P

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Postby AlisterC » Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:56 pm

Or even better guys :D
Nick, search "FUEL" in the "FS2004 Utilities" category ONLY at avsim. You'll get a fuel planner for just about anything you want to fly.
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Postby NZ255 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:24 pm

Thanks for you replies, I did download a fuel calculator for the 737NG for free, which looks all very fine, and am testing it out now on the ML - PH route.
So will see if it is accurate or not in about 4 hours

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Postby AlisterC » Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:26 pm

If you are using the PMDG, they have a fuel planner on their site for their 737 range and it works well :)
http://www.precisionmanuals.com/priv/pages/down/misc.html
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Postby Charl » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:15 pm

It's somehow never been an issue in the sim for me, as I said I cheat if I messed it up.
I do remember some discussion way back about the accuracy of FS fuel calculations.
Does anyone know how inaccurate, and if it's consistently inaccurate or depends on distance or aircraft type?
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Postby NZ255 » Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:18 pm

Albatross wrote:
QUOTE (Albatross @ Dec 24 2007, 04:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you are using the PMDG, they have a fuel planner on their site for their 737 range and it works well :)
http://www.precisionmanuals.com/priv/pages/down/misc.html


Yes thanks for that link, already had D/L though.
I think it might have worked properly, if only I had have told it to compensate for 100 knot headwinds!?! (this is the info the FMC was giving me anyway) Is this correct? 90-100 knot headwinds the whole way and 10-15 knot crosswinds. BTW I had real world weather on (YMML-YPPH)

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