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by **Matty231** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:21 pm

Hey Guys,

I might get a Saitek Pro Throttle + yoke to replace my Cyborg Force, just a question for you guys, can you use the mixture levers as throttle levers?? Like you can have throttle 1 and 2 for each engine.... and say have the third as a spoiler arm?

If not, do you know if someone in NZ sells the 4 throttled ones?

Thanks,
Matt

by **SeanG** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:42 pm

Matty231 wrote:
QUOTE (Matty231 @ Mar 16 2008, 09:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey Guys,

I might get a Saitek Pro Throttle + yoke to replace my Cyborg Force, just a question for you guys, can you use the mixture levers as throttle levers?? Like you can have throttle 1 and 2 for each engine.... and say have the third as a spoiler arm?

If not, do you know if someone in NZ sells the 4 throttled ones?

Thanks,
Matt

I have the Saitek Yoke and love it. My current setup with the standard 3 lever setup is: Throttle 1, Throttle 2, Flap Lever. Only downside is that the knobs don't match

I plan on buying the addon Throttle, which will give me 6 levers, and probably make my own knobs to give me Spoiler, Throttles 1, 2, 3 and 4 plus Flaps.

With MSFS it is a piece of cake to re-assign the levers to whatever you want

SeanG

by **ronindanbo** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:24 am

SeanG wrote:
QUOTE (SeanG @ Mar 16 2008, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have the Saitek Yoke and love it. My current setup with the standard 3 lever setup is: Throttle 1, Throttle 2, Flap Lever. Only downside is that the knobs don't match I plan on buying the addon Throttle, which will give me 6 levers, and probably make my own knobs to give me Spoiler, Throttles 1, 2, 3 and 4 plus Flaps.

With MSFS it is a piece of cake to re-assign the levers to whatever you want

SeanG

is it???????

The only way you can do what OP is asking is by buying the FSUIPC module otherwise your screwed....

I think FSX can allow these reassignments (I hav FSX but it bores the cr@p out of me) but the program built by Saitek is pretty useless when it comes to throttle and mixture assignment.

by **SeanG** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:14 am

ronindanbo wrote:
QUOTE (ronindanbo @ Mar 17 2008, 08:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
is it???????

The only way you can do what OP is asking is by buying the FSUIPC module otherwise your screwed....

I think FSX can allow these reassignments (I hav FSX but it bores the cr@p out of me) but the program built by Saitek is pretty useless when it comes to throttle and mixture assignment.

Nah, dead easy. Go to axis assignments, pick the one you want, wiggle the lever and tada! setup. Thats all I did for throttle and flap. Easy

I didn't even use the Saitek software.

SeanG

by **ronindanbo** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:11 am

SeanG wrote:
QUOTE (SeanG @ Mar 17 2008, 09:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nah, dead easy. Go to axis assignments, pick the one you want, wiggle the lever and tada! setup. Thats all I did for throttle and flap. Easy I didn't even use the Saitek software.

SeanG

In FS9? are you sure coz it dosent work for me not the second throttle thats for sure.

by **Ex ANZ Eng** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:12 pm

ronindanbo wrote:
QUOTE (ronindanbo @ Mar 21 2008, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In FS9? are you sure coz it dosent work for me not the second throttle thats for sure.

I have the same prob with the Saitec AV8R-01 Joystick with the 2 throttles, only one will work.
I believe that it requires FSUIPC of Pete Dawsons, the payware version.

by **ronindanbo** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:29 pm

yes that is what my research has found as well, I am assuming SeanG is only using FSX

by **Matty231** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:42 pm

Okay, thanks so you guys saying i need the FSCUIP thingy, it's on simmarket... So will that allow me to assign 1 throttle to engine 1 etc...? And also, is it possible to program these throttles to reverse?

by **HardCorePawn** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:55 pm

Matty231 wrote:
QUOTE (Matty231 @ Mar 17 2008, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay, thanks so you guys saying i need the FSCUIP thingy, it's on simmarket... So will that allow me to assign 1 throttle to engine 1 etc...? And also, is it possible to program these throttles to reverse?

I assume you mean 'engage reverse thrust'...

The answer is yes... FSUIPC allows you to do all sorts of funky things with axes... including using it to do keypresses at certain ranges of the axis! Anyway, it allows you to set the MAX value, the MIN Value, and then the max Idle and Min Idle values...

The idea being that from Max Idle to Max is the 0 to 100% thrust range... max idle to min idle (its a range so that you dont accidentally jump from 0% to reverse if you nudge the lever etc. and to allow for a bit of 'slack' in the potentiometers) is obviously the idle setting... and from min idle to min value is where reversers are engaged...

ie:

Code: Select all: |----------|-----------|----------------------------------------------| MIN MinIdle MaxIdle MAX

Obviously, if you have detents (the bit where the lever 'clicks' into place), its easier to setup MinIdle/MaxIdle... but its not mandatory... I successfully did it with the levers on my CH Yoke which dont have detents...

The PDF document here explains it better and has some nice pics to match... although it details how to setup a CH throttle quadrant, the basic theory is the same... so should give you an idea of how you'd do it with other controllers/throttles etc...

by **SeanG** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:16 pm

ronindanbo wrote:
QUOTE (ronindanbo @ Mar 17 2008, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes that is what my research has found as well, I am assuming SeanG is only using FSX

Nope, still using FS9. And, although I have FSUIPC I setup the throttles directly in FS9's axis assignment menu. For reverse thrust I used the Saitek software to map the "switch" when you pull the levers back beyond the detent to F2 (and repeat).

I can take some screenshots of how it is setup if that helps?

SeanG

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