The Soviets are invading!

[Ian Warren]

Bucaneer .... the plane that can carry a bucket of sunshine on each wing ...... ..um OH BUGGER!

[Charl]

QUOTE(Ian Warren @ Sep 19 2007, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Bucaneer .... the plane that can carry a bucket of sunshine on each wing ...... ..um OH BUGGER!

Heh they were somewhat underpowered as I recall...

And heres what the RAF used in the interim (until the Tornado arrived) instead of the TSR-2 - the Blackburn Bucaneer ...Theres a couple of private ones still flying in South Africa (their Air Force also had a small sqaudron of them).

Those guys will also give you a ride in that other Cold War Brit, not so underpowered, the English Electric Lightning!
Now I do believe my hard drive harbours one of those somewhere for a screenshot.
Watch this space.

[Ian Warren]

Well with the END of the world , back then as we new it ! Is as old as the cold war , 2002 model , work'd well in FS9 and wicked .. still going in FSX and with good old type feel
.
Off course they brought there offering .. a civil TU114 , with the soviet still at western types but not before showing 1 off there own
.
QANTAS using Connies , and upgrading to 707 , this very amazing aircraft still today hit s the headlines albeit as a BEAR .. ( check notes on TU90/95/114/126) and its many other variants. ..... VERY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED for 2004 users .... and me a X user .. Wonder how the hell Puttin is getting home .. ha ha

Well on with the show
This , the Museum piece .. but ya got to love it .. 6 turning and 4 burning ...

We are so lucky to have SAC and our Cold War counterpart Russia to join the party here ..

This machine not really true, to the Cold War ?
More a Xbomber

Jezzzz now thats BUCK ROGERS!

Its this Bomber to me that is more COLD WAR than anything else .. heck last model of the production line 1962 ? and its still GOING!



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now to the 2 that created such ........



Interest ? ....

[Naki]

Awesome pics Ian - I especially like the Vulcan - I was lucky to see one fly over New Plymouth at an airshow when I was about 8 years old - hopefully the one in the UK that is intact gets airborne again.

[ardypilot]

I especially like the Vulcan - I was lucky to see one fly over New Plymouth at an airshow when I was about 8 years old - hopefully the one in the UK that is intact gets airborne again.

I love the Vulcan too, great screenie of it Ian I haven't seen one in the air, but I've been inside a static one parked at RAF Hendon Air Museum in London. It's sheer size and shape absolute fascinated me, I wish I was around while they were still in service!

Apparently they were really leaky and uneconomical to operate, and the RAF ended up selling them to the public for 1 pound a piece! I can't wait to see this newly restored one up and flying

[Florian_S]

An amazing collection of heavy iron there lads!!!

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE(Naki @ Sep 24 2007, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Awesome pics Ian - I especially like the Vulcan - I was lucky to see one fly over New Plymouth at an airshow when I was about 8 years old - hopefully the one in the UK that is intact gets airborne again.

VULCANS - Recently XH558 was rolled out after complete strip and mantainace checks .. I had same experience 1973/74 Avonhead primary school , still recall teacher with a stupid remark ... ' now children , the reason its so quite is to sneak up on there enemy '

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE(Trolly @ Sep 25 2007, 12:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I love the Vulcan too, great screenie of it Ian I haven't seen one in the air, but I've been inside a static one parked at RAF Hendon Air Museum in London. It's sheer size and shape absolute fascinated me, I wish I was around while they were still in service!

Apparently they were really leaky and uneconomical to operate, and the RAF ended up selling them to the public for 1 pound a piece! I can't wait to see this newly restored one up and flying

Great plane , many USAF pilots during '83 Red Flag' could not believe just how it could sllip lockon during mock combat , it size really made them look ! Andrew the internals of that model would bring back memories

[Charl]

Wow Ian, a whole history lesson in 1!
The others have said it, I'll just add my comment that the Valkyrie and BUFF are from Mars and Venus, how could they exist in the same country at the same time??
Amazing times...
The Blinder is even uglier than I thought! So was it as big as I thought in the sim?

Now...my little bit of entertainment, as promised:

Granddad, how big was it?
Well, almost as big as a modern plane, Gerome

and was it fast?
Oh, very, very fast

Were they good pilots?
The best...

and would they have won the war?
Indubitably...

OK this is the same picture from 4 different angles, but it was truly difficult to set up...

[Ian Warren]

Charl WICKED LIGHTNING ... SO QUIK .... again read how these puppies were waxing USAF Phamtoms ... so manouvable F4 jocks almost gave up

Lookin at shots so many variant s ... my fav was the Camo then Low Vis , think Binbrook operators

[Charl]

QUOTE(Ian Warren @ Sep 20 2007, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Charl WICKED LIGHTNING ... SO QUIK .... again read how these puppies were waxing USAF Phamtoms ... so manouvable F4 jocks almost gave up

Ha! It's like a chain letter innit? Another Cold Warrior somewhere on my hard drive!

But what the Phantom II had, was a pair 'o JT9D kickass motors...and later a gun.
(And Top Gun, eventually). Sorta sad that they still fly, but only as drones to be shot down.

Lookin at shots so many variant s ... my fav was the Camo then Low Vis , think Binbrook operators

Never could get used to the overwing ordnance thing.
What was the other one with that? Jaguar? BAe Heritage showing through there.

[Ian Warren]

With the English Electric/BAC Lightning now completed this its amazing display by Charl ... On the end off the runway 02 completing checks is readying is the Vulcan , an aircraft from the same era as Lightning .

Tower , .. check thankyou , XH558 clear of external power .. few more checks ladies and gentleman .. and close up

Quik cockpit check .. Lightning Team Display Clear . Rgr .. Lineup

and off we go ...

Quik alert combat climb out



and thats our display

that ends this display

[Charl]

Superb!
No matter which angle you look at it, it is BIG! with PRESENCE!
No mistaking that it was meant to defend the remnants of Empire and the entire free world if necessary.
Before you bag it, there is of course another V-bomber of the era...more later.

[Naki]

Awesome shots guys - or should that be good show chaps! The Lightning and Vulcan are looking good - the VC looks pretty good in the Vulcan. Didn't know it had huge airbrakes that popped out of the top of the wing.

Amazing formation Charl - I don't know how you do it!

Whats next? - Valiant, Victor, F-104, Jaguar, Harrier GR1, SU-7, F-102, F-106, Mirage 111/1V, Mig-25, SR-71, U-2, Draken, F-4, F-8, A-6 etc? Phew theres heaps

[Naki]

............next up the Saab Draken.

Sort of Sweden's equivalent to the Lightning but smaller and lighter but still damn fast and the wing platform has hints of the Vulcan (should of had a Danish one with the NATO - Cold War theme but I only had neutral Finnish and Austrian ones).

[Ian Warren]

Paul , Drakens little pocket rockets ..

Ladies and Gentlemen , you may notice the smaller more high preformance aircraft operate out of Woodbourne and above weight level the 175,000lb Max ( 79,390kg) will operated out of Christchruch Intl . Now on to the show

[Charl]

QUOTE(Naki @ Sep 19 2007, 09:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

...Canada's Cold War "what might of been", the CF-105 Arrow. It is in formation with the aircaft it intended to replace - the CF-100. If it went into service it would of been without doubt the best fighter in the world at the time - the emphasis was on speed, climb rate, an advanced missle & radar system and range. Unfortunately (as with the TSR-2) it got canned and Canada bought second hand USAF F-101 Voodoos instead.

...a horrible little aeroplane, the Voodoo, they got lucky the Russians didn't come over the Bering at 'em right then.
Now that Arrow is exactly what was in the back of a homework notebook of a kid in those days!
And the wide-track undercarriage! The wingbox must've been as strong as a railway bridge.
Probably as heavy too, I suspect they could do little more than go straight up and kill the incoming, then go back and roost.
Which brings immediately to mind: Starfighter, must find a Starfighter...

And, er, thanks Ian about the landing weight thing, before I made a foolish mistake with the Victor.
Ohakea can handle that stuff OK, but turns out the F-16's need the brake chute to land.

[Naki]

QUOTE(Charl @ Sep 20 2007, 10:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

...a horrible little aeroplane, the Voodoo, they got lucky the Russians didn't come over the Bering at 'em right then.
Now that Arrow is exactly what was in the back of a homework notebook of a kid in those days!
And the wide-track undercarriage! The wingbox must've been as strong as a railway bridge.
Probably as heavy too, I suspect they could do little more than go straight up and kill the incoming, then go back and roost.
Which brings immediately to mind: Starfighter, must find a Starfighter...

A Voodoo is not exactly small. Yeah the Arrow wouldn't of being exactly agile but it was designed for patrolling the vast Canadian air space for pesky Russians.

F-104 - Captain Sim have one but Cloud 9s even better and no I don't have either but thats what the reviews say.

[Ian Warren]

CAP SIM 104 ... is as old as 2004 , and its Brilliant ... I better add that to review list maybe ?

[SUBS17]

QUOTE(Charl @ Sep 25 2007, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

And, er, thanks Ian about the landing weight thing, before I made a foolish mistake with the Victor.
Ohakea can handle that stuff OK, but turns out the F-16's need the brake chute to land.

Why would that be? Not all countries F-16s carry brake chutes most of them don't as the F-16 uses aerobraking to slow down.(minimum is 3000ft or 914m) Ohakea runway 15/33 is 7000ft long with a landing distance of 5000ft.