Carenado aircraft: Do they drop wings?

[ZK-Brock]

Hi guys
Do the Carenado Payware aeroplanes do a wing drop stall if power and flap is used?

Brock

[chopper_nut]

Dont know but I know that Justflights Pa38 doesnt do it at all. Im going to go and try on the C206

[hinch]

the RealAir SF260 and F1 c172r are the only planes i know of that apparently can stall correctly. i've never stalled in a real plane so i don't know, but that's what i've read. I own both so if you tell me what to do i'll let you know!

[ZK-Brock]

Hey Hinch. You can make a wing drop in a stall by this process:

• Carb Heat On
• Power to 1500rpm (NOT Idle)
• Hold increasing back pressure on the stick so you maintain your altitude
• When your speed goes through 60 knots, full flaps down and carb heat off
• When the aircraft stalls, it will move off to one side. Try correcting it by:
• A) Using Aileron to level the dropping wing, checking the stick forward and using full power
• B)Using Rudder to correct the sideways movement, check nose forward and use full power
• Nose up to the climb

So basically it's a normal stall but you have some power on and dump down all your flap.

[firefly]

I've always thought that using rudder was the way to go in the stall rather than picking up the down wing using aileron. Oddly, I have been told to assist spin recovery you can always in-spin the aileron (turn into the spin) - personally I have never tried this but I was assured this would work by two pits special pilots. I can only assume it may have something to do changing the angle of attack on the outter wing.

As you can see, with the carb heat on, 1500rpm and flap out you are basically in the landing configuration, and are normally close to the ground. So the quicker you can recover from a wing drop stall (or any stall) the better. Better still, recognise the stall symptons and do something about it before it happens.

[ZK-Brock]

Yes you correct the stall with rudder firefly, in my instructions I instructed to first try with aileron and see what happens (it should make the wing drop worse)

[mavman]

...and always use opposite rudder to the dropped wing (ie left wing down kick in right rudder)....never use aileron before rudder or else you will lose too much height and at worst, induce a spin. once you've recovered from the stall you can use aileron. an easy 'trick' to remember when practicing in real life is to keep your left arm on the armrest (providing you're in the LH seat!) and when you recover check forward using elevator not aileron, sliding your arm on the armrest... prevents the temptation to turn the control column to recover! B)
as to your question, i'll try a carenado C182 tonight and let you know!

[ZK-Brock]

Thanks for the tip with the armrest Mavman, 'tis a big help.

[chopper_nut]

Thats the great thing about the PA38 is that it wing drops really well. Quite an odd feeling in a non aerobatic aircraft. Cherokees aparantly dont do it at all, they just keep flying!

[mavman]

I tried the C182 last night, using different power settings.....result: no wing drop!

[ZK-Brock]

Hmm sad, I'd really like to buy a GA craft that I can do wing drops with. The flight1 172R does it?