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Is a Hercules stall speed less than a Huey

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 4:32 pm
by Charl
Cut from a loong movie clip to prove this

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Re: Is a Hercules stall speed less than a Huey

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 5:24 pm
by Splitpin
According to AI....Take what you want there.
"The C-130 Hercules has a stall speed of approximately 61 knots (113 km/h), while a standard UH-1 Iroquois ("Huey") helicopter's stall speed is much lower, around 40 knots (74 km/h).
61 knots for the Herc ? ..prove me wrong...please.

Re: Is a Hercules stall speed less than a Huey

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2025 7:32 pm
by Charl
AI, eh?
As many have discovered, AI comes in many flavours, most of which involve fabrication or making you feel good.

What I was doing was playing with Airshow Assistant formation flying.
I thought: why not put a Herk in with the helo?
No reason I could think of, beyond embarrassment if the C-130 would fall out of the sky while the Huey struggles to keep up!

So I have researched in the old-fashioned way by asking a mate.
He pronounces: A C-130 can stay flying down to 90 kts, and a Huey up to 110.
That's a handy overlap, and so the two can legitimately fly the circuit together.
Looks a bit odd, though, I will grant.

Pondering further: A UH-1 surely does not have a stall speed!
Unnaturally, it can stand dead still.
It is a helicopter. :D

Re: Is a Hercules stall speed less than a Huey

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 7:45 am
by Splitpin
Great response Charl.
This assistance software is pretty good. The smoke and flares aren't my thing , but the rest is a nice learning curve for me.
There doesn't seem to be a way to build a helicopter formation ... that I can work out anyway. Is that model dependent ?

Re: Is a Hercules stall speed less than a Huey

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 1:51 pm
by Charl
Yes this is an issue both with Airshow Assistant and the FCR recording app.
Helos do not play nicely due to their peculiar modelling and will not show up as AI.
The pair shown above had the Huey live, and the C130 as wingman.
FCR has a special subroutine which will accept the H145, but I"m not aware of any other helos.

Afterthought: for those models fitted with non spraying booms (Looking at YOU ORBX PAC) the AA smoke can be tuned to produce a fair facsimile.
See here:
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=32434

Re: Is a Hercules stall speed less than a Huey

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 6:38 pm
by deaneb
Splitpin wrote:According to AI....Take what you want there.
"The C-130 Hercules has a stall speed of approximately 61 knots (113 km/h), while a standard UH-1 Iroquois ("Huey") helicopter's stall speed is much lower, around 40 knots (74 km/h).
61 knots for the Herc ? ..prove me wrong...please.


Approach speed of a C130 (assuming full flap and light weight) is 100-110 knots, so stall speed could be as low as 90. Definitely not 61!
Stall speed for a helo......I think we all know the answer to that!

Re: Is a Hercules stall speed less than a Huey

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:00 pm
by Charl
Yes we do... I am reminded of flying Deane's excellent Huey back in FS9.
I tried flying wingovers and crashed, until I got it right.
There's a video of it somewhere.

It's still fun, if only to hear the blade slap

Watch on youtube.com