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Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:28 pm
by Charl
I followed the trekking route from Lukla to Base Camp using the EC135, being what’s available in AFS2, and not in any authentic markings.
There’s a cat at Lukla:

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More correctly I discovered subsequently, you’d use the patch of ground over the runway for your rotorwing:

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En Route, you find people living at 12,000’

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Sascha has thoughtfully provided helipads along the way; landing and takeoff is somewhat mushy due to altitude.

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As mentioned, you were pretty high to start with, so the Roof of the World looks like… some mountains

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… but they are big mountains, as you find out when you get up close.

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So ends my “Everest Expedition”. It’s all pretty organised these days, what with airports and helipads and tourist accommodation.
Take all that away, and you get some more respect for Sir Ed and the early mountaineers who blazed the trail to the top of the world.

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Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:37 pm
by Splitpin
Charl :bow:
Love the cat ....I'm a moggy man from way back, not detracting from your post of course.

Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:31 pm
by Charl
Marty: It's all about the Cat :D
Thanks for wading through these, i had feared it might be somewhat heavy weather for a flightsim forum!

Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:40 pm
by emfrat
Charl - What else could a cat man do ? :P

Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:50 pm
by Splitpin
" i had feared it might be somewhat heavy weather for a flightsim forum!" not from this end Sir.

Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:18 am
by Charl
Scholar and a gentleman :thumbup:

emfrat wrote:Charl - What else could a cat man do ? :P

Ayeee :lol: :lol: :lol: for your sins you must now figure out whether there's a scenery I can use in AFS2 to complete the Nepal adventure, without breaking Lukla!

Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 1:14 pm
by emfrat
Charl - I see on Flight-Sim.org that TomSimMuc has updated his Kathmandu Project to v2.0, and IZ0JUB has also updated his orthos and cultivation which now reach away south to Chandrapore. Downloading even now as we speak, but it is very slow today :rolleyes:

https://flight-sim.org/filebase/index.php?filebase/69

ATB
Mike

Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:48 pm
by Charl
Looks like there's a bit of overlap Mike - be interested to hear what files you need to cull.

Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:34 pm
by emfrat
Charl wrote:Looks like there's a bit of overlap Mike - be interested to hear what files you need to cull.


Possibly with Michael (IZ0JUB)'s stuff, but note the caption on the third pic here:
https://flight-sim.org/filebase/index.p ... u-project/

Standard proc is to remove the earlier scenery if you have it. I just shoot it holus-bolus into a folder called Hold1, to keep it intact until the new stuff proves itself .
:cheers:
Mike

Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 3:39 am
by hasegawa
Interesting. Certainly tricky to fly. Helicopters and high altitudes are notoriously not as well tolerated.

Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:52 am
by Charl
True. The transition out of ground effect is quite startling.

Mike I'm sucking down everything on your linked page courtesy of my newfound Fast Fibre connection, and will drop it in the sim as soon as I remember the Steam setup.
Looks like a great project, thanks for the pointer.

Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:47 pm
by emfrat
Charl, this is where I finished up. That's Lukla down there , and it looks alright to me B-) . Looks even better at full size https://postimg.cc/tZ16JkZ3

Mike

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Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 7:14 am
by Charl
That looks pretty good, Mike.
Aerofly crashed after I dumped everything into the Steam folder, may have to rethink that approach a little.

MEANTIME, for those of the MSFS 2020 persuasion, the YouTube algorithm pushed this at me after all my Lukla searching.
I suspect this is stock?

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Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:55 am
by emfrat
Charl wrote:That looks pretty good, Mike. Aerofly crashed after I dumped everything into the Steam folder, may have to rethink that approach a little.]

Ta mate :cheers: I don't use Steam, so I don't really read those posts in the IPACS forum. I vaguely recall advice about putting files into the wrong folder in Steam. I'll see what I can find.

I am using the last (beta) DVD update, not the current one. I have found that starting an EC135 flight from the new helipads gives a CTD. The Apache seems to crash instantly and then reset to 5000'. Fixed wing aircraft work fine.. I think this is related to the coding of new-style helipads or parking/starting points not working with the cold and dark mode of the choppers. There is some discussion in the forum about this. I'll have a look..

Mike

Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:17 pm
by emfrat
emfrat wrote:I am using the last (beta) DVD update, not the current one. I have found that starting an EC135 flight from the new helipads gives a CTD. The Apache seems to crash instantly and then reset to 5000'. Fixed wing aircraft work fine.. I think this is related to the coding of new-style helipads or parking/starting points not working with the cold and dark mode of the choppers. There is some discussion in the forum about this. I'll have a look..Mike


Charl, this is misleading. At Kathmandu, if you start a flight with the EC135 on the helipad "Ready to taxi", AFS2 shuts down. It is OK in "Before engine start", and in "Cold and Dark" (Handy Hint - the Fuel Primer is on the overhead panel :rolleyes: )

In the tsc file, the helipad is in as a building but it is not declared as a Starting Position. So I edited VNKT.tsc to look like this, and now it works. Element[4] is the new bit.

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
//
// parking positions
//
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
<[tmsimulator_parking_positiontmslist][parking_positions][]
<[tmsimulator_parking_position][element][0]
<[tmvector2d][position][85.35905680 27.70060009]>
<[float64][heading][110.00]>
<[string8][name][Start Position #1]>
>
<[tmsimulator_parking_position][element][1]
<[tmvector2d][position][85.35837570 27.69926664]>
<[float64][heading][292.00]>
<[string8][name][Start Position #2]>
>
<[tmsimulator_parking_position][element][2]
<[tmvector2d][position][85.36045914 27.70657197]>
<[float64][heading][252.00]>
<[string8][name][Start Position #3]>
>
<[tmsimulator_parking_position][element][3]
<[tmvector2d][position][85.36258058 27.69912229]>
<[float64][heading][338.00]>
<[string8][name][Start Position #4]>
>
<[tmsimulator_parking_position][element][4]
<[tmvector2d][position][85.35964877 27.70297123]>
<[float64][heading][180.00]>
<[string8][name][H1]>
>


>

Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 5:08 pm
by Charl
Fuel primer, aye? :ph43r:
Thank you Sir, I will attempt Element 4 and see.

Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:31 pm
by Splitpin
Mike , Charl, I think the problem is here ....<[string8][name]. You can never trust a "string 8" ....never... just bad ... bad..awful bloody things ...8 strings... what's that about? :wink2:

WHAT! are you talking about, you crazy guys .... I hope you get it sorted, whatever it is B-)

Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:49 pm
by emfrat
Well, mine works, and AFS2 code is full of them. I could have named it [Start Position #5], but [H1] makes it clear which earlier line it relates to. :D

(always liked the sound of a 12-string, meself)

Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:25 pm
by Splitpin
Mike and Charl, I really didn't mean to detract from the post. I just love it when you guru's are speaking your guru stuff, but again, no damage intended.
Love your work gents :rockon:

Re: Lukla - Mount Everest - Extreme: Part Trois

PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:02 pm
by Charl
Marty, in here you can do as you please, you own the place!
emfrat wrote:(always liked the sound of a 12-string, meself)

Ah yes, the 12-string
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...and the 18
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