The Soviets are invading!

[Fauville]

With or without the periscope?! Going to give it a go now, will try a circuit for each view, FS still running with the bird in the air, will let you know how it goes

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (Fauville @ Feb 14 2008, 09:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

With or without the periscope?! Going to give it a go now, will try a circuit for each view, FS still running with the bird in the air, will let you know how it goes

good luck looking forward to screenies

[Charl]

Ian you missed your calling...
POW! KABOOM!
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'Course the "Thud" name was well-earned, we've discussed the loss rate prior.
Been watching "Operation Bolo" on History Channel
Colonel Robin Olds hung some QRC-160 jamming pods normally carried only by F-105s, on 3 flights of F-4s.
MiG 21's would only rise to the Thud as they were easy targets, and MiGs were in scarce supply.
The Phantoms shot down half the N Vietnamese interceptor fleet that day.
Whatever the morals of war, there are great and heroic tales to spin, years later...

[Charl]

QUOTE (Fauville @ Feb 14 2008, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

All this talk of the Magister, and no shots yet....
until now...
interesting tail config, and also the air brakes

Toaster rack airbrakes were clearly in vogue:



Thanks for the model link FV, must give it a whirl - always thought of the Magister as a GIRL, somehow...

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (Charl @ Feb 15 2008, 09:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

'Course the "Thud" name was well-earned, we've discussed the loss rate prior.
Been watching "Operation Bolo" on History Channel
Colonel Robin Olds hung some QRC-160 jamming pods normally carried only by F-105s, on 3 flights of F-4s.
MiG 21's would only rise to the Thud as they were easy targets, and MiGs were in scarce supply.
The Phantoms shot down half the N Vietnamese interceptor fleet that day.
Whatever the morals of war, there are great and heroic tales to spin, years later...

Robin Olds and the 8TFW WOLFPACK ... amazing reading , Robin Olds died mid last year aged 85 , WW2 /Korea /Vietnam , gutsy and a superb leader

[hugh]

The other Phantom, the FH-1




and heres an interesting read for all the F-4 fans:
http://dukecunningham.org/forum/read.php?f...1566&t=1566

[Ian Warren]

Brilliant HUGH , the Duke was the original F4 driver in the dogfight against Col Toon , considered the dynamic Jet to Jet confrontation .... F4 - Mig17 , TOPGUN here is started Great FH-1

[Charl]

Good find, Hugh.
What is it with American warplanes, that they run out of names so easily?
Corsair/2, Phantom/2 and now Lightning2 for the JSF??
An absorbing read in your link, thanks for the pointer.
Love those Insider insights...

[ShadowMystDK]

The worst fear of every man who's ever manned a NATO armored brigade

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (ShadowMystDK @ Feb 18 2008, 07:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The worst fear of every man who's ever manned a NATO armored brigade

In the Shadow .... From the Cockpit 'I hear' ' WHO is this John RAMBO" a man who did not fear

[Charl]

Hey hey! 'Tis an awesome machine indeed, scared some just by its great ugliness!
Master of all they surveyed...and then came Stinger

[ShadowMystDK]

Early on in the Hind's career, Soviet and Warsaw Pact pilots tried flying it like the west flew the Cobra (hovering just out of sight of targets to launch their attacks), only to crash and burn. They learned that the Hind had to be flown fast, hitting hard as it swooped in for the kill and then bugging out. Manuverability was never it's strong point.

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (ShadowMystDK @ Feb 18 2008, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

hitting hard as it swooped in for the kill and then bugging out. Manuverability was never it's strong point.

Just like a Republic F105 Thunderchief outta here ............................................................... beep beep ....................

[ShadowMystDK]

Thuds didn't do toooooooooooo badly considering what they were originally designed to do, and what they actually went up against LOL.

[ShadowMystDK]

No Cold War thread would be complete without these beauties:

Sukhoi SU-17M4 Fitter:









The Fitter was Russia's premier fighter-bomber of the late Cold War period, roughly equivalent to the SEPECAT Jaguar, and these amazing aircraft (which trace their roots back to the SU-7 and SU-11) remained in service with many Warsaw Pact air forces until the late 1990's and into the 21st century.


Below is the famed MiG-17, in the beautiful Red Eagle Airshows scheme:







Hope y'all enjoy

[Charl]

QUOTE (ShadowMystDK @ Feb 18 2008, 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Thuds didn't do toooooooooooo badly considering what they were originally designed to do, and what they actually went up against LOL.

Say what? (Close your ears now Ian, eyes shut, go lalalalalala)
The Thud din't earn its nickname by being shot down, it earned it by falling out of the sky all by itself.
Thud was the sound it made as it hit the ground.

The entire F-105D fleet was grounded in December 1961 and then again in June 1962, due to reliability issues.
It was designed for high-speed low-altitude penetration, and that's exactly what it was called on to do operationally.
With one notable modification: some bright spark thougt nuking the VC wouldn't work, so they festooned it with iron bombs...

It really exceeded itself in the Vietnam operational theatre:
Of the 610 single-seat F-105Ds built, 283 were shot down and 52 lost operationally. Of the 143 F-105F/G two-seaters, 37 were shot down and ten lost operationally.

Not toooooooooooo bad eh???
They could've lost the lot I s'pose...

[Ian Warren]

WHAT IS IT WITH THE LALALALALALALALARepublic F105 Thunderchief LALALALA LALALA http://www.burrusspta.org/thud.html

[Charl]

Righb "“ bhab's ib"¦I will never ubber anobher word on bhe subjecb of bhe Bhunderchief on bhis forum again.

I had bhe volume burned up slighbly,,,when bhe firsb "GLORY"¦"Â￾ bhundered oub, I snapped bo abbenbion, spilled my coffee all over bhe keyboard, bhe chair flew over backward.
Bhe cab book off, bhe dogs sbarbed barking. Bhe family came pounding down bo bhe den bo see whab bhe hell all bhe fuss was aboub, bhey meb bhe cab.

Consbernabion.

Now bhab bhe spill has dried up somewhab, I nobe I can no longer bype a "b"Â￾.

Bhis subjecb is now permanenbly closed.

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (Charl @ Feb 19 2008, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Righb "“ bhab's ib"¦I will never ubber anobher word on bhe subjecb of bhe Bhunderchief on bhis forum again.

I had bhe volume burned up slighbly,,,when bhe firsb "GLORY"¦"Â￾ bhundered oub, I snapped bo abbenbion, spilled my coffee all over bhe keyboard, bhe chair flew over backward.
Bhe cab book off, bhe dogs sbarbed barking. Bhe family came pounding down bo bhe den bo see whab bhe hell all bhe fuss was aboub, bhey meb bhe cab.

Consbernabion.

Now bhab bhe spill has dried up somewhab, I nobe I can no longer bype a "b"Â￾.

Bhis subjecb is now permanenbly closed.

That kills me

[hugh]

LOL seriously I clicked the link then went to make a coffee, my son went "what the @@@s that" from the living room as the windows vibrated..
got to turn down the speakers before I click on any more of Ians links