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Postby FlyingKiwi » Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:38 pm

I still find myself flying that Galeb in FS2004 occasionally, definitely a high quality addon.
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Postby Ian Warren » Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:59 pm

Charl diffintely forgotten SOKO G2-A Galeb , another brilliant model from this time was also the FOUGA Magistrate . :)
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Postby ardypilot » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:07 pm

That Galeb looks real cool, I've never heard of it before untill here!

Has anyone done the Vought F-8 Crusader yet?

I recently downloaded Roland Laborie's amazing model after seeing it showcased on fs2004.co.uk but can't recall if it has already popped up somewhere in the last 32 pages..
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Postby Naki » Tue Feb 05, 2008 7:46 pm

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Charl diffintely forgotten SOKO G2-A Galeb , another brilliant model from this time was also the FOUGA Magistrate . :)



I had completely forgotten about the Soko as well - I was going to post pictures of it earlier on but then things moved on ... Its my favourite FS jet trainer - anybody have that payware T-37 or the Macchi? - both suppose to be awesome.

The Fouga (Magistrate???) is another goody - one of my first add ons.
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Postby victor_alpha_charlie » Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:26 pm

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The Fouga (Magistrate???) is another goody - one of my first add ons.


Magister :D
Didn't there used to be one in NZ? What happened to it?
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Postby Naki » Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:50 pm

It crashed with the death (not sure whether there was one or two in it at the time) of the pilot(s). Chris Timms was the part owner/pilot at the time. He was a Olympic Gold Medalist in Yachting. I happened abut 4 years ago while he was practising for an airshow. Nothing left of it as it went verticle (in a spin I think) into the Ocean/mud flats.
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Postby Ian Warren » Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:37 pm

Trolly wrote:
QUOTE (Trolly @ Feb 5 2008, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That Galeb looks real cool, I've never heard of it before untill here!

Has anyone done the Vought F-8 Crusader yet?

I recently downloaded Roland Laborie's amazing model after seeing it showcased on fs2004.co.uk but can't recall if it has already popped up somewhere in the last 32 pages..

Andrew , we have seen the F8 , i think Charl and Fauville , its good to get another s view on the aircraft , It nice to see different perspec Bring it on ! :)
yeah have to love these things :D
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Postby Alfashark » Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:37 pm

Naki wrote:
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It crashed with the death (not sure whether there was one or two in it at the time) of the pilot(s). Chris Timms was the part owner/pilot at the time. He was a Olympic Gold Medalist in Yachting. I happened abut 4 years ago while he was practising for an airshow. Nothing left of it as it went verticle (in a spin I think) into the Ocean/mud flats.


Thats right, happened not too long after it received its all-over blue with red and white trim lines colour scheme. I remember helping unload it out of a container when it first arrived in the country at Tauranga airport. Such clean lines and a very small lightweight airframe :) As for the powerplants, apart from model pulsejets, I've never seen such a small unit... tried to get a look up the exhaust for a few shots of the final stages and failed miserably (no I havent got a big head) - you'd be hard pressed to get anything more than a flat spread palm into there. Oddly enough for such small engines it made a hell of a racket with a high pitched scream that even a Skyhawk would struggle to match... Probably explains some of my high-tone hearing loss. Cockpit was "cosy", I wont say cramped since thats not quite how it felt. Panel in Metric increments (not a biggie unless your daydreaming and then look at the ASI...) and the Periscope from the rear cockpit made for some interesting viewing of what was happening up front :thumbup:
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Postby deaneb » Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:52 pm

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to the XB70 with a wrap around capsule which pilot had some control , Al White survived using this , only to die latter in the next year - Apllo 7


I think you are confusing Al White (North AMerican Pilot) who survived the XB70 crash with Ed White an astronaut who died in Apollo 1 fire

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Postby Ian Warren » Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:57 pm

Alfashark wrote:
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The Periscope from the rear cockpit made for some interesting viewing of what was happening up front :thumbup:

brilliant little display jet as well , it did have that hi pitch - mini turbojets , most of the noise was on the ground , maybe the rush of air in a confined intake , once in the air , it lost a lot pitch , another good examples would be the T37 , .. the Vampire is another superb ex .. once airborne , quite whisle/humm .
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Postby Ian Warren » Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:17 pm

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I think you are confusing Al White (North AMerican Pilot) who survived the XB70 crash with Ed White an astronaut who died in Apollo 1 fire

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Not going to disagree here ... XB70 1966 colision with F104 - Apollo 7 Fire 1967 .... this means Mister White made one amazing recovery! considered had major back injuries :) I ve got to quit thinking all test pilots are called Steve Austin . :lol:
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Postby Charl » Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:31 pm

At the end of WWII, B-29's were being put into dead storage, and new orders cancelled.
Boeing, undaunted, revised the old bomber with new, more powerful twenty eight cylinder air-cooled radial engines (3,500 BHP Pratt & Whitney R-4360), a taller vertical stabilizer, and other minor improvements.
They then got congressional funding for this "new" bomber, and deliveries carried on as usual.
Boeing built 371 of these between 1947 and 1953, some serving until 1965.



Tom "Gnoopey" Kohler has updated his venerable bomber again, and variants are on AVSIM and flightsim.com.
I'm sure the sight of a dozen or so of these entering your airspace would've been reason to leave "“ fast (wouldn't have happened, remember they carried nukes.)
It was a lot of fun doing the flyby though"¦



B-50s served with the Strategic Air Command as medium bombers.
In 1949 SAC decided to show the Soviets a thing or two: Capt. James G. Gallagher and a 13-man crew took off from Carswell AFB, Texas, in a B-50 bomber named Lucky Lady II.
Four days later they landed back at Carswell. This achievement, the first nonstop flight around the world, also stirred the public imagination.



The TB-50H Superfortress was the fastest production B-50 with piston engines only - due to the light load.
#447 above was the first of the batch. All were later converted to KB-50K tankers, finding use in the Vietnam War.
Another "Turner 'n Burner", J-47 jet engines were added for better heft.
http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA---Air/B...ress/1162933/M/
(Tom has intentions to do the FS model, until then this is a placeholder)



RB-50F-50-BO Superfortress #139 above was the last of the RB-50's brought to 'The Boneyard' at Davis-Monthan AFB AZ on May 20th 1966
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Postby Ian Warren » Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:15 pm

Charl ! Brilliant !One heck of a VIC B-) ....... Last couple of days , this B50 , flooded Flightdim.com ... one amazing plane and a superb model
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Postby FlyingKiwi » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:08 am

Alfashark wrote:
QUOTE (Alfashark @ Feb 10 2008, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As for the powerplants, apart from model pulsejets, I've never seen such a small unit... tried to get a look up the exhaust for a few shots of the final stages and failed miserably (no I havent got a big head) - you'd be hard pressed to get anything more than a flat spread palm into there. Oddly enough for such small engines it made a hell of a racket with a high pitched scream that even a Skyhawk would struggle to match... Probably explains some of my high-tone hearing loss.


From what I've read, the early model Magisters (of which ZK-FGA was an example) were extremely underpowered - later versions were re-engined with more substantial powerplants. I only saw it at an airshow once, but I agree that it made an amazing amount of noise, such a shame that it was destroyed in such a tragic way.
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Postby ardypilot » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:27 pm

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Andrew , we have seen the F8 , i think Charl and Fauville , its good to get another s view on the aircraft , It nice to see different perspec Bring it on ![/quote]
Ah never mind, the aircraft isn't my 'sort of thing' anyway, just saw it standing out on a recommended freeware list and thought it would look right at home here... turns out, it already is ;)

Charl- brilliant formation! How many Super-Fortresses are in that formation there?
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Postby Charl » Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:24 pm

Trolly wrote:
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Ah never mind, the aircraft isn't my 'sort of thing' anyway, just saw it standing out on a recommended freeware list and thought it would look right at home here... turns out, it already is ;)
Don't hesitate - we haven't seen that particular FS model yet, and it's a brilliant one if you want to showcase it.
QUOTE
Charl- brilliant formation! How many Super-Fortresses are in that formation there?[/quote]Well it certainly is BIG - I think it was a couple of dozen, I'd offer you the tracks but the file's a bit cumbersome.
They went
$Offset: -100 0 50
$Offset: -200 0 100
$Offset: -300 0 150 etc on the one side, and
$Offset: 100 0 50
$Offset: 200 0 100
$Offset: 300 0 150 etc on the other
and the flight was roughly southward.
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Postby hasegawa » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:33 am

The Su 27B found the way to the inventory of nearly all ex. Soviet Union countries...

This is "Cobra 56" from the Ukrainian Air Force...

Think, it is correkt to bring this pictures in this thread, because the aircraft is from the time before 1989, but the owner is a bit newer... the Ukraine is independent since 16th July 1990...









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Postby Ian Warren » Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:11 pm

August 11 1967 , F105s of the 355 and 388 TFW attack Hanoi's Paul Doumier bridge lead by Col Bob White - 1 of the 5 major bridge targets in North Vietnam

The main link out of Hanoi , rail and two road connections to move war material past the Red River flood plains , and the longest bridge in North Vietnam

Bomb Damage and accessment showed target destroyed but with 'typical quik build ' in this conflict , traffic was following again - being bombed continously

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Postby Fauville » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:43 pm

Nice piece of art there sir.

All this talk of the Magister, and no shots yet....

until now...

Potez-Air Fouga Magister, primary jet trainer for many years for l'armee de l'air (and other air arms)



interesting tail config, and also the air brakes

Slightly restricted view from the rear instructors seat, before the times of raising the rear up on jet trainers

so the interesting choice of a periscope was used for a better forward view

(interesting view during landing approach)

Also used by the French Navy, version called the Zepher?? with tail hook etc

This excellent model from Restauravia.com (and the Zepher also)
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Postby Ian Warren » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:07 pm

Fauville wrote:
QUOTE (Fauville @ Feb 14 2008, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nice piece of art there sir.

All this talk of the Magister, and no shots yet....

until now...

This excellent model from Restauravia.com (and the Zepher also)

The Magister, possibly most Unique trainer/warplane from this era , due its non aggressive stance mainly its butterfly tail , periscope in the back :D the poor instructor , seemed it was the best answer for the time , with many others following suit .

Fauville ,...... did you try a landing from the back seat ?
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