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As some of you may know, after last year's Alien conspiracy thread, I love reading about any sort of conspiracy theories. I heard about a rather far fetched one concerning Denver International, where a few people rekon there is a huge underground city beneath the complex where the New World Order goverment are running our planet from.

It certainly makes for some bizarre reading: http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Denver_Airport.html

Examples of weird things at KDEN include:

* The Queen of England has reportedly been buying up property in Colorado under a proxy.
* On the Masonic Capstone is inscribed NEW WORLD AIRPORT COMMISION.
* An eyewitness who has since "committed suicide" named Phil Schneider was a whistle blower re: Denver International Airport's underground facilities
* Phil also worked on other government underground facilities such as Area 51 and Dulce and more.
* There are many murals at the airport of an EXTREMELY grotesque and apocalyptic nature.
* After looking at the murals many come away saying that they may represent what the elites plan to do with us and world
* One Mural depicts a green giant "Darth Vader" like figure wearing a gas mask destroying a city
* The Artists who made the murals etc in DENVER INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT have been interviewed wherein they first claimed that guidelines WERE provided for their work
* In this mural women can be seen carrying DEAD BABIES
* Another mural depicts a German boy collecting from all the other children of the world, all of the worlds weapons
* Another mural depicts nothing but mind-altering or poisonous plants and animals all of which are recognized as Masonic symbols worldwide
* The LUFTWAFFE has long had an EXTENSIVE base in New Mexico complete with towns where all signs are in GERMAN
* Phil Schneider claimed during the last year of constuction that the underground airport system was being connected to a deep underground base at least 8 levels deep, 4.5 square mile underground city
* Rodney Stitch, author of Defrauding of America, claims to have a copy of a tape of a CIA agent paying off the mayor of Denver to get the airport built [$1.5 million payoff]

Anyone have any opinions?

P.S. There's a cool doco on tonight on prime about a guy who apparently predicted 9/11 before it happened!

Trolly wrote:

QUOTE(Trolly @ Sep 9 2007, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

As some of you may know, after last year's Alien conspiracy thread, I love reading about any sort of conspiracy theories. I heard about a rather far fetched one concerning Denver International, where a few people rekon there is a huge underground city beneath the complex where the New World Order goverment are running our planet from.

P.S. There's a cool doco on tonight on prime about a guy who apparently predicted 9/11 before it happened!

Y'know, that saying about Truth being stranger than Fiction? Well, it's true.

P.S. Fellow's surname isn't perhaps Bin Laden??

apparently, from what i understand about the shorts of the doco, he didn't predict the attack on sept 11, but he had prepared his staff for the event of n a/c hitting the two towers, and if one was hit, to get out straight away. well that is my take on it

You mean Phil Schneider hes actually now dead. Heres a quote from some of his lectures:

"To give you an overview of basically what I am, I started off and went through engineering school. Half of my school was in that field, and I built up a reputation for being a geological engineer, as well as a structural engineer with both military and aerospace applications. I have helped build two main bases in the United States that have some significance as far as what is called the New World Order. The first base is the one at Dulce, New Mexico. I was involved in 1979 in a fire fight with alien humanoids, and I was one of the survivors. I'm probably the only talking survivor you will ever hear. Two other survivors are under close guard. I am the only one left that knows the detailed files of the entire operation. Sixty-six Secret Service agents, FBI, Black Berets and the like, died in that fight. I was there.

You can read more herePhil Schneider Story

I take stories such as these as like a grain of salt theres alot of retoric and finger pointing but rarely any evidence or proof and often they over react like the whole Black helicopters issue. I get the impression that someone doesn't like Denvers airport.

As some of you may know, after last year's Alien conspiracy thread, I love reading about any sort of conspiracy theories.

Well its nice to see someone else who likes conspiracy theories as well!

I found this rather long but none the less informative speech that Phil Schneider spoke just before he was murdered, oops I mean committed suicide.
Some of the stuff he talks about is pretty amazing, but pretty dangerous to talk about. I think the fact he was murder 6 months later by the Govenment pretty much confirms what he was talking about.

P.S. Fellow's surname isn't perhaps Bin Laden??

Well would you look at the date!

Turns out that doco I mentioned was more of a life-saving-hero-memorial rather than a conspiricy, just like Jas guessed.

That Phil Schneider vid looks like a must watch Riddlez- but at 71mins long, how many mb is it? I don't want to go over my data limit again this month!

I'm downloading the video now, it's 101.2MB as an .flv file

While I'm in no doubt that there is some weird stuff going on - those pictures at Denver Airport are spooky, the failure to get basic facts right makes me lose interest rather rapidly. The author loses all credibility with statements like:

"The airport was built in 1995 on 34,000 acres (53 square miles; 137.593 Sq.km) in spite of the fact that Denver already had what everyone said was a perfectly fine airport - Stapleton - which was ordered closed when DIA was built so there "wouldn't be any competition". In fact the new airport has less gates and less runways than Stapleton did (I hope you're saying, "That makes no sense"...). All it does have is a lot more acreage. More acreage than an airport that size could possibly need. Most which sits unused."

I flew into the old Denver Airport (Stapleton) in an RNZAF Orion in 1993, on the way in we could see the new airport being built and it was easy to see why. The old airport was on the edge of a built up area and two parallel runways were in constant use for landings another two for take offs. A quick look at Google earth will show that the new airport has 5 runways and a sixth which is not yet in use. I would also argue that the parking area and terminal sizes offer far more gates than Stapleton. The whole idea is to increase the size and capability of Denvers airport - why - because its centrally located in the US and is a major hub used by many of the US airlines. In fact it is designed to grow to no less than 12 runways, 3 parallel runways on each side.

Then I decided to watch the Phil Schneider video - apart from being a very dull speaker - it was full of very hyped up stuff. Building a couple of underground areas is one thing which may be credible, but fire fights with aliens etc, is going too far. These type of conspiracies are too far reaching to remain secretive in my opinion. I almost got the feeling this was a guy who had nothing to lose and was making himself famous before he ended his life. Maybe I'm wrong.

My whole point is - if there is strange stuff going on, the factual evidence needs to separated from speculation. Hyping up and exaggerating facts does not give any credibility to the author and thats a shame, because the truth may be hiding there somewhere.

Deane

Dude thats some seriously screwed up shite I had a look on Google Earth at DIA and funnily enough as it says they runways are lined up in the form of a Swastika.

Hmmmmmm "Twilight Zone"

SQ350

Hyping up and exaggerating facts does not give any credibility to the author and thats a shame, because the truth may be hiding there somewhere.

I do agree with that, however the whole "hyped up" issue is purely subjective (as is the whole conspiracy issue itself). Some of the new ideas being thrown around by conspiracy theorists do sound far fetched i know, however don't write them off just because they do sound far fetched. Remember It wasn't long ago that people thought it was preposterous to believe the World was round. The fact that the majority of the people 400 years ago believed the World was flat, doesn't actually make the world flat.

apart from being a very dull speaker

Definitely! It wouldn't hurt him to change the tone of his voice, especially listening to him for 71 mins

I flew into the old Denver Airport (Stapleton) in an RNZAF Orion in 1993

Did you serve (or still serve) in the RNZAF? would be pretty cool to fly in the Orion.

squirrel350 wrote:

QUOTE(squirrel350 @ Sep 16 2007, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Dude thats some seriously screwed up shite I had a look on Google Earth at DIA and funnily enough as it says they runways are lined up in the form of a Swastika.

Hmmmmmm "Twilight Zone"

SQ350

Maybe the guy who designed it overlooked the fact it looks like that even so who cares its just an airport.

deaneb wrote:

QUOTE(deaneb @ Sep 16 2007, 07:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Then I decided to watch the Phil Schneider video - apart from being a very dull speaker - it was full of very hyped up stuff. Building a couple of underground areas is one thing which may be credible, but fire fights with aliens etc, is going too far. These type of conspiracies are too far reaching to remain secretive in my opinion. I almost got the feeling this was a guy who had nothing to lose and was making himself famous before he ended his life. Maybe I'm wrong.

My whole point is - if there is strange stuff going on, the factual evidence needs to separated from speculation. Hyping up and exaggerating facts does not give any credibility to the author and thats a shame, because the truth may be hiding there somewhere.

Deane

I agree they often go on this New World order tangent which I believe has very little to do with UFOs. As for the fight with the Aliens Bob Lazar mentioned that there was a fight with Aliens during an experiment in the 70s. Bob Lazars story is alot more believeable than Phil Sneiders and the rest of them. Bob Lazar was the only one to actually invite TV crews to see UFOs flying and there was none of this other NWO stuff. Although his website is now gone and so are his transcripts which were very interesting to read.
another ufo thread

Riddlez wrote:

QUOTE(Riddlez @ Sep 11 2007, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Did you serve (or still serve) in the RNZAF? would be pretty cool to fly in the Orion.

Yes have Been in the RNZAF for almost 22 years. Flown on almost all the types we have had. Hercules, Orion, Andover, 727, 757, Strikemaster, Iroquois, CT4E Airtrainer.
Probably one of the few people here who has flown in a 1, 2, 3 and 4 engine jet aircraft !!!

Spent 4 years at 5 Sqn as a groundie (1989-1993) and clocked up over 200 hrs a passenger on Orions flying around NZ and various parts of the world on exercises. My last flight on an Orion was earlier this year when I caught a lift on one returning to Auckland after a major servicing at Woodbourne. A low level flight home for 2 hours sure beats, flying civvy !!
Have had stick time on P3, Strikemater, CT4 and Iroquois - the Iroquois was a hoot. Flight simming definitely helped.

Deane

Have had stick time on P3, Strikemater, CT4 and Iroquois - the Iroquois was a hoot. Flight simming definitely helped.

Hey Deane, Did you ever come across a young Iroquois pilot by the name of Tony Budd or a guy they called "Radar" O'Rielly used to live right next to both of them and went to school with tony's brothers.

SQ350

squirrel350 wrote:

QUOTE(squirrel350 @ Sep 12 2007, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hey Deane Did you ever come across a young Iroquois pilot by the name of Tony Budd or a guy they called "Radar" O'Rielly used to live right next to both of them and went to school with tony's brothers.

SQ350

I remember the name Radar O'Rielly from years back, but don't know either of them.

Deane

Ah Ok yeah Radar I think is a Air NZ Pilot now not sure if still is or not but that was what I heard last.

Tony used to land at our primary school very frequently I remember him dropping his brothers at school one time in an Iroquoi because of a fatal MVA on SH1 blocking there road.

SQ350

Heres another interesting character william cooper

"REDLIGHT" is the project to test-fly recovered alien craft. It is
conducted at AREA 51 (DREAMLAND) in Nevada. It was aided when the
aliens gave us craft and helped us fly them. The initial project was
somewhat successful in that we flew a recovered craft but it blew up in
the air and the pilots were killed. The project was suspended at that
time until the aliens agreed to help us.

You can read more here William Coopers site

Another good place to look is here:
Majestic Documents

Lol check out SOM101 you'll have a good laugh.

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LMAO

Probably the most controversial of all the people with intersting stories is Bob Lazar since his history was nearly erased by the government if you check out his story. I'm surprised that they actually did eventually find some proof that he had worked as a Scientist prior to the day he went to the media.
Bob Lazar
interview

Website

Transcript 1

L: It was even... up until the day I first saw it, when I walked in through the hangar, I said, to myself, this is the disc and when I saw the American flag on it... I was positive... and instantaneously answered all of the UFO questions in my mind. This is what everyone's been seeing. This is our secret craft and all those flying saucers from another planet.... they're so stupid. The answers were all there. And then it was after that...

R: You were told that it wasn't the government's...

L: Well, that's when we actually started working on the hardware.

L: Right. For one brief second, as I came by, the disc was rotated... the door was on this angle... as I was coming out, to the door here, was the first time I got to look inside and there were three or four people inside and I looked up, inside there, and it was the first time I registered how small the seats were inside. And it was the only thing that didn't make sense to me...

Lol check out SOM101 you'll have a good laugh.

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LMAO

LMAO, Good video Subs!

Where's this SOM101 thing that you mentioned?

Its on the page for Majestic documents don't take it seriously though as there is no mention of where it was found.