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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:41 pm
by Jimmy
Well it started with parants getting home and seeing me on my pc, climbing outa egll with full atc on ivao, flying a 763 with 9fps doesn't do much for my mood especialy when dads behind me throwing a paddy about me being on my computer.. So after a heated argument, and me being told I yelled first, I threw the paddy firsat etc.. sometimes I actuly wish I was in the wrong when arguing with my parants..

ANYWAY. after a day of being glared at and all that usual stuff when im right and they are wrong umm I try to dial up to to the internet (at 1530, I paitently waited untill the time I was alowed on here) and find the password changed :o So now I can only go on the internet if my parants come and enter it for me, yes iv tried the save password thing but dad says hell change it everynight.. and saw the tick box anyway. So is there anyway other can find the password? :P eathier saving whats enterd on the keyboard via a little application or somethign or accseesing the clearnet site and getting it???

perhaps you think it is bad of me trying to get around my parants, nooooo im right , im always right in this house <_< I really can't bleve they have done this, like my time on the nzff and online flying etc.. is so limited if I have to get there permissino everytime..

HELP!
James

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:52 pm
by brownbox
ahhhh James, welcome to the club of being a teenager :lol:

Anyway, Ill get searching and get right back to you

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:22 pm
by ZK-Brock
You'll need a keylogger probably, but these forums prbably aren't the place to dicuss that sorta thing.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:11 pm
by Alex
Too right monkey, and afaik those are not available for sale in NZ either.

Alex

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:28 pm
by dnkiwi
hi jimmy i have a idea that just might work for u simply find the the connection and copy and paste but make sure it has the password this worked for me when my folks had a pc that crashed so i did what i mentioned above and got it work my working pc

best of luck

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:40 pm
by towerguy
this is a time and space problem - just give it some time and give each other some space - things will cool down - if you go further down this path then the dark side you will REALLY be on! sometimes it's better to just sit something out and let it ride! better to have restricted but still available access than no access, no family, and no respect - you will find out in the long run that there are two sides to each situation maybe try to see what they are trying to achieve - they may think you are needing some time out (offline) and do they have reasons to think this?

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:43 pm
by ZK-MAT
I feel for ya James but as a parent I would be doubly pissed off if my kids worked around the password. I'd probably say there's no internet at all for a long time.

It's all about respect for your parents. If they pay the internet account they have the right to limit you.

If you let it slide for a few days then show you are mature enough to accept your 'fate' I bet you'll be back on in no time.

Chin up.

Edit: Towerguy and I are on the same wavelength, he's obviously a faster typer though :D

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:13 pm
by Jimmy
okay well, my parents have warned me if I get around them on this they will disconect it all together.... Although Im still completly right :P

thanks Matt and Towerguy.. you guys are quite right, I should jus give in, although as some of you may imagine i'm not a person who likes doing that!

It's all about respect for your parents. If they pay the internet account they have the right to limit you.


yes they are always saying "respect" I try my best but when they are telling me that I yelled first, I was wrong etc.. its blody hard, especialy when I can understand a situation clear as yet they are telling me I did differant. I just get so frustrated when they don't listen, anyway... I have offerd to pay for the internet but they woudl rather have controll over me.

they may think you are needing some time out (offline) and do they have reasons to think this?


well I consider my time online as education, like I took a ivao flight captain exam last night, 92 percent mark, I was prety chuffed with that..I think its certainly experiance that would carry over to the real world. Even if its just the confidence on the comms (witch my examiner commended me for).

So when im restricted from being online here I'm not only missing not chating all of you but not learning stuff, even if its scratching my head over a approach plate! plus of course the mere frustration of being ristricted from something, as we have all experainced....

well iv rambled enough now, thanks for letting me let of some steam :)
James

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:02 pm
by ZK-MAT
Well you're online flying now so it can't be all too bad :P

Mate, one thing you will come to realise in all aspects of life is you pick your battles. You may well have not done anything wrong, but ultimately it won't be worth being cocky over it.

Your parents won't like being b*stards, I assure you that.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:21 pm
by Jimmy
yup got plenty of time online tonight, I jsut don't liek the idea of having to drag mum or dad to come enter a silly little password, makes me feal like a little child <_<

Mate, one thing you will come to realise in all aspects of life is you pick your battles. You may well have not done anything wrong, but ultimately it won't be worth being cocky over it.


Indeed, and not carry things on. if I have an argument I usualy just remove myself, its when pll carry their atitudes from it threw out the entire day that it really gets patheticly stopid... I certianly will "pick my battles", I like the sound of that :D

James

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:24 pm
by ardypilot
Well at least you get to go on NZFF at school ;)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:54 pm
by Zöltuger
my brother had this software program that you could point to a password with the cursor, and it revealed the hidden text beneath it. no idea what it was tho.

but don't spend your life on the computer- you're young, get out and enjoy the world before it ties you down :D

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 1:29 am
by towerguy
and remember you are always right - right up till the moment when your kids tell you that you are wrong because they are always right! their teacher told them so!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:31 pm
by Chookie
Why do I have to be the meanie!

Jimmy, you're 14, correct me if I'm wrong. You shouldn't be worrying about when you'll next get on the computer. It doesn't matter how long you're allowed on the computer for, NZFF and FS are still gonna be around.

Trying to get around the password won't help. You're parents will lose trust in you and that won't be good.

Admitting you're wrong every once in a while, even if you aren't, wouldn't hurt either.

Admin, feel free to edit any parts that may offend

(very rare Admin edit inside someone's post: uh, Chookie, the topic is Off Topic. You're Off Topic. Great.)

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:03 pm
by ZK-MAT
That's not being mean Chookie, that's being realistic :D

Good advice all round I think!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:09 pm
by G-HEVN
Jimmy wrote:well I consider my time online as education, like I took a ivao flight captain exam last night, 92 percent mark, I was prety chuffed with that..I think its certainly experiance that would carry over to the real world.  Even if its just the confidence on the comms (witch my examiner commended me for). 

One of the guys in my UK online flying club, he's just 15 and sometimes controls EGLL on Vatsim. On the back of his online experience, he's managed to get a Summer work experience job at ASTAC (http://www.astac.co.uk/ ), which I think is pretty impressive.

Keep working on that spelling, though ;)

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:21 pm
by Chookie
G-HEVN wrote:
Jimmy wrote:well I consider my time online as education, like I took a ivao flight captain exam last night, 92 percent mark, I was prety chuffed with that..I think its certainly experiance that would carry over to the real world.  Even if its just the confidence on the comms (witch my examiner commended me for). 

One of the guys in my UK online flying club, he's just 15 and sometimes controls EGLL on Vatsim. On the back of his online experience, he's managed to get a Summer work experience job at ASTAC (http://www.astac.co.uk/ ), which I think is pretty impressive.

Keep working on that spelling, though ;)

Yes, FS is educational, but only if you're going to end up working in the aviation field.

Its no use if you're working and Macca's or a supermarkets (No offence to anyone intended)

There's my two cents

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:56 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy, you're 14, correct me if I'm wrong. You shouldn't be worrying about when you'll next get on the computer. It doesn't matter how long you're allowed on the computer for, NZFF and FS are still gonna be around.


13 :P I do wroy about next time on here, its practicly all I do mainly cos its the only thing I can actuly see any benefit from, what do I get out of playing a board game or watching tv etc.. (well theres exercise but its not like im unfit at all)..

One of the guys in my UK online flying club, he's just 15 and sometimes controls EGLL on Vatsim. On the back of his online experience, he's managed to get a Summer work experience job at ASTAC (http://www.astac.co.uk/ ), which I think is pretty impressive.

Keep working on that spelling, though


Well I hope to be controling EGLL in a few mounths myself..just changed to the great britan ivao division... :D getting a summer work experiance woudl be more to the luck of the person than the skill, as with all things its "who you know"....

And I am trying with my spelling, I might take an english class next term!

Trying to get around the password won't help. You're parents will lose trust in you and that won't be good.

Admitting you're wrong every once in a while, even if you aren't, wouldn't hurt either.


yeah I have giving up trying to get it, I just take the p!ss outa em when ever they come and enter it for me :lol: They seem quite confident they I will find it out, perhaps I shoudl just suprise them and not get it.. oh but whats the fun in that!

Thanks guys
James

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:27 pm
by Bluebird
Hey jimmy


Why do u have to fly online all the time?? I just like to fly with my Ai Traffic i just found it more fun having heaps of traffic.. Have u just tryed that?



Todd

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:42 pm
by G-HEVN
Jimmy wrote:getting a summer work experiance woudl be more to the luck of the person than the skill, as with all things its "who you know"....


Not entirely. In this instance, getting the job involved passing an aptitude test, which consisted of controlling a bunch of aircraft...

And I am trying with my spelling, I might take an english class next term!

Good on ya :thumbup: