NZFF

Not quite a Raptor .. but

“They're continuing to discover cracks. They're continuing to discover areas they need to fix. And if those costs are on the Australian government, then even a fixed-price contract doesn't tell you what you will pay for the planes because, of course, they're not fully done until you fix them.â€￾

Similar problems happened with the F-111 45 years back, the US of A lending F-4 Phantoms to fill the gap till 1973, maybe a Raptor could be lent

Ian Warren wrote:

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Apr 23 2014,3:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Not quite a Raptor .. but

You're quite right Ian, senior moment there. For the benefit of future (confused) readers the original heading said Raptors for Oz. I'll stick with F-35 as there was really only one Lightning, and I don't mean P-38.

I know you war mongers ;-) wont agree but that amount of moolah and that many aircraft just seem bloody ridiculous IMHO.
$12b??? FFS !!!

Tis a pretty snazzy machine though.

deeknow wrote:

QUOTE (deeknow @ Apr 23 2014,5:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I know you war mongers ;-) wont agree but that amount of moolah and that many aircraft just seem bloody ridiculous IMHO.
$12b??? FFS !!!

Tis a pretty snazzy machine though.

Snazzy i hate the F-35 until they fix the darn thing......

12b and there in talks to cut pension??????

deeknow wrote:

QUOTE (deeknow @ Apr 23 2014,7:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I know you war mongers ;-) wont agree but that amount of moolah and that many aircraft just seem bloody ridiculous IMHO.
$12b??? FFS !!!

Tis a pretty snazzy machine though.

Agree deeknow .... $12b ..... i know it includes weapons and base upgrades .... but 12 billion. I think before long , the land of Oz will become another star on the U.S flag.

@Steel .... yes .... there can be only one

Splitpin wrote:

QUOTE (Splitpin @ Apr 23 2014,8:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Agree deeknow .... $12b ..... i know it includes weapons and base upgrades .... but 12 billion. I think before long , the land of Oz will become another star on the U.S flag.

@Steel .... yes .... there can be only one

Marty & dean & Yob

I'm not a war monger, these are for the airshows we go to and to have a star attraction

Well, I suppose they will have to find some use for all that obsolete equipment...after all, the future of air warfare is drones, isn't it?

Are yes, gone the Knights of the Sky, the chivalry of war.

emfrat wrote:

QUOTE (emfrat @ Apr 24 2014,10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Well, I suppose they will have to find some use for all that obsolete equipment...after all, the future of air warfare is drones, isn't it?

What with DAS and IHDMS, which is going to be more obsolete, the aircraft or the driver?

steelsporran wrote:

QUOTE (steelsporran @ Apr 24 2014,2:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

which is going to be more obsolete, the aircraft or the driver?

they'd probably end up with a snotty nose little brat on his home PC for a driver, his name Dennis the Menace !

steelsporran wrote:

QUOTE (steelsporran @ Apr 24 2014,1:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What with DAS and IHDMS, which is going to be more obsolete, the aircraft or the driver?

Whats IHDMS? I know what EO DAS is though. F35 needed for oz because of whats happening in Spratlys etc and other places like Ukraine.

That makes no sense.

SUBS17 wrote:

QUOTE (SUBS17 @ Apr 24 2014,4:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Whats IHDMS? I know what EO DAS is though. F35 needed for oz because of whats happening in Spratlys etc and other places like Ukraine.

I can see why the USA might convince them to get involved in the South China Sea but Ukraine is total BS, that's just a USA beat-up on behalf of commercial interests.

I do wonder, lets pull everything USA out off these regions, shut the UN down .. put the offices into North Korea, put Winston Peters in as the head huncho... really cooking here .... forgot the topic - a squadron of F-35s RAAF as a defence .... COOOooool , and Sir Peter J to start writing his new movie script.

deeknow wrote:

QUOTE (deeknow @ Apr 24 2014,7:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I can see why the USA might convince them to get involved in the South China Sea but Ukraine is total BS, that's just a USA beat-up on behalf of commercial interests.

Its not Aussies involvement in such conflicts but the need for aircraft like the F35 to counter what the Chinese and Russia has although the Superhornet is an extremely good aircraft the Chinese also now have stealth aircraft. BTW whats happening in Ukraine is a step back towards the cold war so its good to have aircraft that are advanced technology so that if a conflict should arise then they are prepared for it.

Ian Warren wrote:

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Apr 24 2014,8:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I do wonder, lets pull everything USA out off these regions, shut the UN down .. put the offices into North Korea, put Winston Peters in as the head huncho... really cooking here .... forgot the topic - a squadron of F-35s RAAF as a defence .... COOOooool , and Sir Peter J to start writing his new movie script.

lol that describes an epic disaster movie, the world would wind up like in Idiocracy. But we'd still have F35s to save the day.

SUBS17 wrote:

QUOTE (SUBS17 @ Apr 24 2014,4:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Whats IHDMS? I know what EO DAS is though. F35 needed for oz because of whats happening in Spratlys etc and other places like Ukraine.

Integrated Helmet Mounted Display System.

Dyslexia Lures

SUBS17 wrote:

QUOTE (SUBS17 @ Apr 25 2014,8:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

lol that describes an epic disaster movie, the world would wind up like in Idiocracy. But we'd still have F35s to save the day.

I'll take the role as the bad guy ... You have to blown me up one hundred times and have many thousand bullets whizzing past .....

steelsporran wrote:

QUOTE (steelsporran @ Apr 25 2014,12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Integrated Helmet Mounted Display System.

Dyslexia Lures

This is were you come into the plot STEEL .. just make that Helmut work .. you don't want to kill the person who speaks the only Ianglish

steelsporran wrote:

QUOTE (steelsporran @ Apr 25 2014,11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Integrated Helmet Mounted Display System.

Dyslexia Lures

lol I was thinking it was a new DMS gadget.(4 way hat that controls Display Management System)