A WOO HOO

[Ian Warren]

A WOO HOO Government Logic ..

WooHoo! We have posted you a cheque for $174.92 as per the statement below: .... Thankyou Mr Key
22/06/12 Refund for 2012 tax year $217.29 .................................................... Just like the Bankers
22/06/12 Less Fees Deducted GST incl ($42.37)............................................ Already paying tax again
22/06/12 Bank Transfer of $174.92 ........................................................... Should have said the Wankers

Pre this nice little handout they do today .... wonder what happened to my WOO HOO's of 30 years past

And to think i watched ROBIN HOOD last night .... so much for fairy tales




Now where is my Bow and Arrow .... a Sword would be handy

[IslandBoy77]

Ian - you forgot to list all the other taxes we pay AFTER we've already been taxed:
- Petrol
- Rates
- Power
- ACC
- EQC
- Road User

Income tax was only invented as a stop-gap measure by the Americans during the civil war to pay for the war. They conveniently left it in place afterwards to impoverish us workers and keep us screwed down. Doesn't matter if it's socialist party L or socialist party N, there's too many snouts in the trough taking our hard-earned dosh...

[Ian Warren]

Crikey Pete Missed all those , Really one thing i say all is ..... DON'T VOTE ..... Think what the Gov would think .. hang on ... Pity we cannot sell those idiots off .

Hey wonder if the entire country did not turn up at the election ,post ,parcel ,package or what ever they call it and stopped voting ... we get Taxed ... time to tax the Gov's , just don't turn up - just think of the head scratching in the hive , Labour/National both the same and they doing well filling there pockets ... maybe ...

[dbcunnz]

QUOTE (Ian Warren @ Jun 25 2012,1:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

... Pity we cannot sell those idiots off .

Who in their right mind would buy them why not just export them to a third world country if you can find one that would take them

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (dbcunnz @ Jun 25 2012,4:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

why not just export them to a third world country if you can find one that would take them

AH HA ! .... Doug your Brilliant ! .. the BBC had a TV series back in the 1980's 'Spitting Image's' a comedy show using puppets and dummies ....

We could give em away ............ No strings attached ..................

[IslandBoy77]

Its funny, isn't it? We, the people being shafted violently by "the gummint" (whether that be the shadow "gummint" that sits about in the Beehive pretending to run the country, or the real one where Aunty Helen is now, current HQ = UN, New York), are the ones that make this world turn. All the millions and billions of dollars "they" squander minute by minute - with so little thought to where it came from - came from all of us "little people" slogging away for 40, 50, 60, 70 or 80 hours a week. Even the richest of the rich still got the bulk of their dosh from ripping some poor beggar off.

What would be great is for all of us little people to agree together not to pay our indentured slave tax - and then listen to the yelling and screaming coming from the privileged ones. Of course, until "we" decide that we can do a better job with our money than the "gummint" - and stop enabling these scmucks making government bigger and more intrusive, we're doomed to stay on our little tread-wheels like so many million little rodents. It means, of course, that NZers have to finally decide to grow up and become "big people" - where the government is small and just does what government was designed to do in the first place: govern. Not tax. Not pander to every special interest group. Not to decide what indoctrination is taught at schools. etc etc etc. The only way "the west" will every become what was envisaged by those who sacrificed so much to enable our "freedom", is when people stop doing 2 things: 1) Expecting the "gummint" to look after everything. This means no more tax-payer funded safety nets / teats for the special-interest groups - going back to where people actually cared about each other and their community. And maybe even talking to their neighbours over the fence! And maybe even asking to HELP said neighbours with no expectation of payment or recognition! Radical!! 2) Re-learning that freedom does not equal license. With freedom comes responsibility. The west has become a bunch of churlish children who wants to be able to do whatever they want "so long as it doesn't hurt anyone else". Of course such logic is a nonsense and can never work, because "hurt" for one person isn't the same for another. And unless one really looks thru all the possible consequences of ones actions - now, tomorrow, next week, a year from now - just hoping that living for oneself and that it won't negatively impact others is reckless.

Ah, soapboxes - ya gotta love 'em...

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (IslandBoy77 @ Jun 25 2012,7:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Its funny, isn't it? We, the people being shafted violently by "the gummint" (whether that be the shadow "gummint" that sits about in the Beehive pretending to run the country, or the real one where Aunty Helen is now, current HQ = UN, New York),

To true , .... All the problems caused by .. you - them and the voters that don't think or look , go and believe the lies ... Brain death is so great ....

As for the thief and cheater - recent post

Helen Clark relives WWI events
NewstalkZB | 06:47am Sun 10 Jun 2012

Helen Clark is back on the battlefields on Northern France, reliving what New Zealand soldiers went through during World War I.
The former Prime Minister has been invited to the town of Ypres in Belgium, for the reopening of a museum.
Miss Clark says region's battlefields were the setting for traumatic events for New Zealand.
She talked about the attack at Passchendaele which was to become the country's worst ever military disaster, with 800 men killed in a day.



The history and live ... the name above only uses Death and Combat Courage for its (whoop her)own end . STINK !

[AndrewJamez]

QUOTE (IslandBoy77 @ Jun 25 2012,6:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What would be great is for all of us little people to agree together not to pay our indentured slave tax - and then listen to the yelling and screaming coming from the privileged ones. Of course, until "we" decide that we can do a better job with our money than the "gummint" - and stop enabling these scmucks making government bigger and more intrusive, we're doomed to stay on our little tread-wheels like so many million little rodents. It means, of course, that NZers have to finally decide to grow up and become "big people" - where the government is small and just does what government was designed to do in the first place: govern. Not tax. Not pander to every special interest group. Not to decide what indoctrination is taught at schools. etc etc etc. The only way "the west" will every become what was envisaged by those who sacrificed so much to enable our "freedom", is when people stop doing 2 things: 1) Expecting the "gummint" to look after everything. This means no more tax-payer funded safety nets / teats for the special-interest groups - going back to where people actually cared about each other and their community. And maybe even talking to their neighbours over the fence! And maybe even asking to HELP said neighbours with no expectation of payment or recognition! Radical!! 2) Re-learning that freedom does not equal license. With freedom comes responsibility. The west has become a bunch of churlish children who wants to be able to do whatever they want "so long as it doesn't hurt anyone else". Of course such logic is a nonsense and can never work, because "hurt" for one person isn't the same for another. And unless one really looks thru all the possible consequences of ones actions - now, tomorrow, next week, a year from now - just hoping that living for oneself and that it won't negatively impact others is reckless.

D

Total agreement there. Governments are slaves to the Mega rich and powerfull. Good doco on tonight CH1 9:30 on the western/saudi/gulf wars for nothing but black gold.

[deaneb]

QUOTE (IslandBoy77 @ Jun 25 2012,6:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What would be great is for all of us little people to agree together not to pay our indentured slave tax

Not sure what planet you live on, but our society functions because of tax. If we all stopped paying tax, we would still have to pay for health, education, roads and all the other services some other way and it would cost a heck of a lot more. So then guess who wins - the Rich !!

[AndrewJamez]

Sorry, Secret of the 7 sisters sceens on TV7 Mon 9-10pm Tues 7am and 1pm

[IslandBoy77]

QUOTE (deaneb @ Jun 25 2012,9:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Not sure what planet you live on, but our society functions because of tax. If we all stopped paying tax, we would still have to pay for health, education, roads and all the other services some other way and it would cost a heck of a lot more. So then guess who wins - the Rich !!

No, I don't agree with that Dean. We've become so used to paying tax and having big government, that we don't realise that it doesn't HAVE to be that way. There was a time when the "ordinary people" did a lot of the stuff that governments do now - either as charity, or as a business concern. Example: Let's say the gummint takes $100 from you a year to sort the roads. It comes from your tax. Now lets say that its "user pays" for the roads and a business looks after them - but it only costs you $80 a year - less, if you use the roads less than average, more if you use them more. That way, you pay your share and I pay mine. Otherwise, let's say I never drive. My usage of the roads might be confined to just my own town, with rare trips on a bus. Since most of my trips would be local, that would be covered by rates, since the local council looks after all the local roads. But if I'm paying $100 a year to the gummint for perhaps $5 worth of usage, that means I'm taxed to pay other people's share. That's known as socialism. As you can guess, I'm not a socialist. But don't worry, it won't happen - things will stay as they are, as most NZers are now socialists and would rather have the "gummint" redistribute the worker's wealth, since gummints are so incredibly efficient and well-run... And all those who work in gummint only have our best interests at heart... And no one in gummint is looking out for their own butt, the next election or opinion polls...

[victor_alpha_charlie]

^Time to start your own political party then and see how many NZers actually agree with you...

[Ian Warren]

QUOTE (victor_alpha_charlie @ Jun 26 2012,3:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Time to start your own political party

AH HA .. We will call it THE WOO HOO party , then the tax department would take us to court for using a brand name

[deaneb]

QUOTE (IslandBoy77 @ Jun 26 2012,8:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

No, I don't agree with that Dean. We've become so used to paying tax and having big government, that we don't realise that it doesn't HAVE to be that way. There was a time when the "ordinary people" did a lot of the stuff that governments do now - either as charity, or as a business concern. Example: Let's say the gummint takes $100 from you a year to sort the roads. It comes from your tax. Now lets say that its "user pays" for the roads and a business looks after them - but it only costs you $80 a year - less, if you use the roads less than average, more if you use them more. That way, you pay your share and I pay mine. Otherwise, let's say I never drive. My usage of the roads might be confined to just my own town, with rare trips on a bus. Since most of my trips would be local, that would be covered by rates, since the local council looks after all the local roads. But if I'm paying $100 a year to the gummint for perhaps $5 worth of usage, that means I'm taxed to pay other people's share. That's known as socialism. As you can guess, I'm not a socialist. But don't worry, it won't happen - things will stay as they are, as most NZers are now socialists and would rather have the "gummint" redistribute the worker's wealth, since gummints are so incredibly efficient and well-run... And all those who work in gummint only have our best interests at heart... And no one in gummint is looking out for their own butt, the next election or opinion polls...

Sounds so very easy. But its impossible for people to pay for just their share. Charity for crying out loud? Even a charity requires people to pay donations. As a business yes - they are called toll roads and they have their place. But a business has one purpose - to make money. Period. So have they got our best interests at heart? Do tolls stop after the road is paid for? Not always. Do the profits get distributed back into a tax pool? Of course not.

There are areas of our country that could not afford to maintain roads without an even spread of the money. So people in rural areas would suffer and as we know our country is built on a rural economy. In fact you could even throw Auckland in there too! They take additional money to keep the roads going. Thats not Socialism, its economic reality! You can add a million other negatives about tax - why am I paying for sick people when I'm healthy, poor people when I work and they don't, the list goes on... but the alternative is even worse. AND you might not drive, but you and the town you live in will still be dependent on roads for a lot of business, goods delivery, tourism etc, so any which way you look at it, the funding must be re-couped somehow. So you will still pay. Not forgetting the more complex the user pays becomes the more bureaucracy will be required to manange it.

Sure you can subscribe to any alternative methods you like. Sure it does not have to be this way. But reality is that it works and as yet there have been no successful alternative.

[Ian Warren]

All this drama over a WOO HOO check .. (banked) .. i've been outta action for almost two years .. even General Cable now recent posted a listing for my old job .. Doc's said nah GC - well i did'nt get it .. But i do have an idea and believe its a WOO HOO .... secret squirrel at the mo but think its going to be a WOO HOO ! .....

.... and no its not politics .. I like friends and tell the truth ......... I don't sell valuables ... i archive items then now and for the future ..... WOO HOO!