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Postby ZK-TJL » Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:01 pm

A select few of you were aware that my first flight was on today and its was great. Not just the flight but the Tower aswell. I got the opportunity to pick the brains of a Dunedin ATC by the name of Nick, great value guy. But first..........my flight.

Jabien (hope I got that right) was my instructor........really laid back bloke. He was quite keen to let me do pretty much everything. It was good to chat away with him and learn about aviation in general.

Yours truly, all gung ho with my top gun glasses on my head looking for my seat belt..........can u see it??? :) :bow:
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Thats better (great start knob head :clap: )
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Now, as some of you are aware, I am a physiologist (a medical science that is the study of how the body functions) and my specific area of interest is Aviation physiology. The way the body functions when flying is not the same as it does in the simulated environment. It was awesome to be able to get a grasp of the 'feel' of flight. I mentioned to Jabien that my interest was in the physiology of aviation and we got to talking about G force and how it effects the human body during flight (no microsoft sim can prepare u for this!!!). Once we were up above South Dunedin at 2'500 Jabien mutted "I've got the airplane" I let go of the controls and continued admiring the view..........then with out warning Jabien banked the c152 over to 60 degrees and pulled hard..........there goes that sensation thing again.......The 'G force' mentioned only moments ago in the flight was now a practical class!!!!!! :lol: This was a c152 not a fighter.........and yet we were pulling about 4 G's (so I'm told). After that steep turn was over it was my turn.........can't describe the sensation......so cool. That was the only time Jabien had the controls, he was more than happy to let me control the rest of the flight including the radios into and throughout the traffic pattern. Was great to have an instructor who's so laid back and hands off. Entered right downwind for runway 03. Was cool to be able to see the 'big guys' around me.......had an ATR and this a320 land just before me.
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After the flight was over I got to head up to Dunedin ATC and meet Nick. Nick was rather funny guy over the waves......rather informal. Here's a couple from the tower,inside and out
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Also this private jet caught my eye
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Thanks for listening to me bleat on :drool:
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Postby Alex » Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:15 pm

Hey, like the cellphone holder on the first tower pic. :lol:

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Postby ZK-MAT » Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:26 pm

Nice review of your flight mate - be sure to keep us up on your training!
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Postby ZK-Brock » Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:27 pm

Cool TJL - yeah the first time I experienced more than 1G - amazing feeling (Tecnams can't really handle much though). 4Gs though? Thats quite a bit for a max rate turn I think.

Also nik, are you doing yourPPL or just doing a few lessons to help your career?
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Postby Zöltuger » Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:40 pm

ZK-TJL wrote: Also this private jet caught my eye
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i'm wondering if that's the private jet of Barry Coleman from Dragon's Den, given the NBR logo on the engine cowl...

i know you had an awesome time, hope your next adventure is a good :clap:
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Postby Brennanx » Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:45 pm

Is that the guy that owns some news paper? because if it is it's always at ardmore
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Postby nzav8tor » Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:05 pm

Shes a Cessna C500 Citation, steam powered inside, first era of Cessna biz jets.

Ill add a pic of a C560 but I don't know how! A little help with uploading pics would be great!
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Postby ZK-TJL » Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:27 pm

Brennanx wrote: hey go to screenshots fourm topic and up the top of page it says Uploading pictures it tells you how to do it. If you have any problems pm me

What the? :( Are the pics not loading on your comp???
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Postby Brennanx » Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:35 pm

He dosn't know how to do it like go to the site and get the ID for it and upload it i think. Go to http://z11.invisionfree.com/nzff/index.php?showtopic=13
thats how to upload pictures. And if you have any problems ask me.
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Postby JonARNZ » Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:26 am

Great photos Nik, sounds like you had heaps of fun, and got the left hand seat already. Remind me to salute next time we meet :P
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Postby ardypilot » Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:57 am

Great pics- I was hoping to fly on that Warner Bros A320 to Gold Coast back in January but we got -OJA instead.
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Postby FlyingKiwi » Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:00 am

Cool photos! One of the Ardmore Flying School instructors flys that Citation sometimes.
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Postby ZK-TJL » Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:03 pm

monkeybdg wrote: Cool TJL - yeah the first time I experienced more than 1G - amazing feeling (Tecnams can't really handle much though). 4Gs though? Thats quite a bit for a max rate turn I think.

Also nik, are you doing yourPPL or just doing a few lessons to help your career?

I'd love to........but with Physiology taking up most days pretty much 8am til 9pm and much of the weekend, it's abit unrealistic......might do a whole bunch of flight time about mid year when I'll have some time (fingers crossed :D )
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Postby Chris Donaldson » Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:00 pm

I think it's Javen Nick :P I did some aerobatics with him last week, and he's a really awesome guy. Next time you go for a flight, ask to do some aerobatics in ZK-EJV, and ask him to do some loops & barell rolls!

Nick is an awesome controller, spoke to him on the radio last week.
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Postby JonARNZ » Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:09 pm

Any pics on the inside Nik? While you were flying maybe?
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Postby HardCorePawn » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:38 am

Cool TJL - yeah the first time I experienced more than 1G - amazing feeling (Tecnams can't really handle much though). 4Gs though? Thats quite a bit for a max rate turn I think.


45 degrees is around +1.41G, 60 degrees will be +2G and 75 degrees is +3.86... so I think he may have been exaggerating slightly ;) Although, you did mention that he "pulled hard", so maybe that would have increased the load factor.

If you're interested (and I just know all the high schoolers doing calculus will be... NOT!), you can calculate the Load Factor as 1/Cos X, where X is the angle of bank.
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Postby mavman » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:43 am

Great shots, try standing at the threshold of rwy21 when the airbus flies in, awesome place to take pics from!
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Postby kiwiflyboy » Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:40 pm

HardCorePawn wrote: 45 degrees is around +1.41G, 60 degrees will be +2G and 75 degrees is +3.86... so I think he may have been exaggerating slightly ;) Although, you did mention that he "pulled hard", so maybe that would have increased the load factor.

A cessna can generally not maintain level flight above an angle of bank of 60 degrees, they just start decending or stall. But feeling G loading in an aircraft for the first time is a completely different compared to the "G" you feel on a rollercoaster or similar....
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Postby Jimmy » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:15 pm

Looks like a jolly good day at the airport nik :P

I didn't 320s flew in to NZDN.. I didn't even know it was intl!

..then with out warning Jabien banked the c152 over to 60 degrees and pulled hard..........there goes that sensation thing again.......The 'G force' mentioned only moments ago in the flight was now a practical class!!!!!!


When I had my introductry flight the instructor decided she would show me what it feals like descending with out bringing the throtle back and then proceded to tell me "you wont feal that in flight sim" :lol: very neat :D
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Postby ZK-Brock » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:16 pm

I read in Wolfgang Lanchschweise's (?) book Stick and Rudder that an aeroplane cannot maintain level flight for extended periods beyond 45* of bank. Couldn't get my head around why though :unsure:
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