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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:30 pm
by ZK-KAG
Hey Guys,

Just wanted to share this with ya... On my flight from PM-AA today, we came in at Auckland and touched down right by taxiway A2 (the place where the landing stripes are) and we had reversers going and serious braking, so much so that we were jolyed forward in our seats quite a bit. Now I dont mind this at all, but I dunno why it was done... Here is a pic to show the landing run...

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And here is the video for those that wanna see it...(The quality is poos). Any ideas or comments? I think it was so he didnt have to taxi forever (have a look at the next exit and the extra taxying invovled :P )... Any other stories as well?

NZAA Landing

Cheers ~ZK-KAG~

PS Sorry for the video size, I dunno how to compress it...

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:54 pm
by Chris Donaldson
I had a flight from Dunedin - Christchurch a few years ago with some seriously strong winds. We were setup for an APP to 02, but we got a wind change so went out over Banks Peninsula, left base for 20, all the while getting thrown around like a toy car, flare and holy hell and huge gust of wind and we very nearly had a wing strike on the right hand side.

And all I could do was go "Wohooo, more more" whilst everyone is pooing themselves. I love turbulance, it makes the flight alot more fun :P

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:32 pm
by Zöltuger
maybe there was a fast approaching aircraft behind you on finals? had to clear the runway quickly maybe.

my dad told me one time where they slammed on the brakes at auckland, but i think they were landing on 5L or 23R.

he had a lucky escape on monday, the ANZ 733 from wellington he was on had to circle before landing to check the nosewheel :o pilot had heard a strange noise after leaving wellington but after checking his secret hatch, he informed the cabin that it was probably just a blown seal and they landed safely.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:04 am
by ardypilot
Interesting scenario, Zolt's theory sounds most likley.

I tried to watch your video KAG, but once I clicked the link, I asked me to sign into your account..?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:54 am
by ZK-KAG
I tried to watch your video KAG, but once I clicked the link, I asked me to sign into your account..?


Sorry Trolly, I redid the link...

And all I could do was go "Wohooo, more more" whilst everyone is pooing themselves. I love turbulance, it makes the flight alot more fun


Chris I couldnt agree with you more!!! :D I love things that are not so 'normal' hehe. I live for turbulence :P

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:04 pm
by Craig
LOL. that landing is like one of mine at Raglan in the 777 :rolleyes:

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:33 pm
by Kelburn
I was in a flight coming from Christchurch (to Wellington) one in a 737. It had been a rainy day so the runway was obviously wet and the pilot touched down a little bit later than usual and ended up using all the runway (from the base of rnwy 34). I didn't relise until we turned off the runway though :clap:

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:51 pm
by Charl
DO ATR"s have autobrake settings?
If so, that's easily explained by selecting 3 and forgetting the aircraft is almost empty (?)
Otherwise he was told to get off the rwy.
Pilots don't make manual mistakes. :unsure:

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:00 pm
by towerguy
after some more real world flying you will learn to respect Mother nature and give turbulence a WIDE berth - was flying a C182R south of Mt Tamborine inland from coolangatta was at about 1800ft in a stiff northerly when suddenly we went from upright to nearly fully inverted ( about 150 degrees) and heading down! fortunately previous aerobatic training helped and we where upright at about 1200ft and heading down the valley. both of us very subdued!

one of only several encounters with turb and wake turb - give the stuff the respect it deserves and stay well away!

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:05 pm
by Zöltuger
Kelburn wrote: the pilot touched down a little bit later than usual and ended up using all the runway (from the base of rnwy 34). I didn't relise until we turned off the runway though :clap:

i suppose if you as a pilot know that you've landed long, there's nobody behind you and there aren't any exits until the end, then you might as well save fuel and brakes by using the entire runway to stop. it's probably safer too

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:50 pm
by ardypilot
Sorry Trolly, I redid the link...

Thanks, nice vid :thumbup:

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:03 pm
by kismet
Nice vid..but I guess it was one of those you had to be there things.


I had a landing like that a few months back, such as in July when AKL got fogged in, and our flight from ZQN landed 5 hours late. When we landed though there was like 10 or 11 planes lined up to land behind us, and we landed so hard and so fast that people were actually screaming :clap: :thumbup:

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:11 pm
by ZK-KAG
after some more real world flying you will learn to respect Mother nature and give turbulence a WIDE berth


Yeah I fully understand that turb and wake turb is to be strictly avoided in lighter planes, and I dont get a kick out of turbulence in the cessna's, its just the bigger jets thats its fun...

DO ATR"s have autobrake settings?
If so, that's easily explained by selecting 3 and forgetting the aircraft is almost empty (?)


Im pretty sure they do...even so I thought it was manuel braking, but cant be too sure. The reversers were on as soon as the wheels hit the deck too... man it was fun!

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:43 pm
by flynz
One time my Dad said he was landing at wellington into a souterly (rw16), unfortunately im not sure what type of plane it was but when they touched down they were already past the terminall and bear in mind that this was a while ago with the old terminal which was even furthur south than the current one :blink:

Last time I left Auckland for LA in a B744 we were fully loaded and i swaer that we used up every centermetre of that runway and then when we did get it off the ground it still seemed to struggle. (bloody Qantas :ph43r: )

DO ATR"s have autobrake settings?
If so, that's easily explained by selecting 3 and forgetting the aircraft is almost empty (?)


If they do have autobrake having the plane empty shouldnt make any difference because i believe autobrakes are just designed to slow you down at a particular rate, this means using more reverse doesnt stop the plane quicker it just puts less wear on the brakes.

Chris