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Postby kiwiflyboy » Mon Feb 26, 2007 3:23 pm

I have sat in a max rate for a while probably thru 1800 degrees, just for a bit of fun, actually maintained height better than i had expected.... +- 30' so I'd like to see what his "extended periods" are
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Postby ZK-TJL » Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:59 pm

Chris Donaldson wrote: I think it's Javen Nick :P I did some aerobatics with him last week, and he's a really awesome guy. Next time you go for a flight, ask to do some aerobatics in ZK-EJV, and ask him to do some loops & barell rolls!

Nick is an awesome controller, spoke to him on the radio last week.

I got him to spell it and I'm pretty sure there was a 'b' in there somewhere. Check next time you see him and I'll correct it.
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Postby ZK-TJL » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:02 pm

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Cool TJL - yeah the first time I experienced more than 1G - amazing feeling (Tecnams can't really handle much though). 4Gs though? Thats quite a bit for a max rate turn I think.


45 degrees is around +1.41G, 60 degrees will be +2G and 75 degrees is +3.86... so I think he may have been exaggerating slightly ;) Although, you did mention that he "pulled hard", so maybe that would have increased the load factor.

If you're interested (and I just know all the high schoolers doing calculus will be... NOT!), you can calculate the Load Factor as 1/Cos X, where X is the angle of bank.


I think he did all that he could as he knew my back ground in Physiology, we were talking about flight suits and thigh pressure systems and that I'd been involved in some cerebral blood flow research where we used a thigh pressure system. I think that got him into action. Maybe he rouded it up to 4??? Been talking to one of my professors today about G force etc today. Gonna try pick his brains again at some point.
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Postby ZK-TJL » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:40 pm

HardCorePawn wrote:
Cool TJL - yeah the first time I experienced more than 1G - amazing feeling (Tecnams can't really handle much though). 4Gs though? Thats quite a bit for a max rate turn I think.


45 degrees is around +1.41G, 60 degrees will be +2G and 75 degrees is +3.86... so I think he may have been exaggerating slightly ;) Although, you did mention that he "pulled hard", so maybe that would have increased the load factor.

If you're interested (and I just know all the high schoolers doing calculus will be... NOT!), you can calculate the Load Factor as 1/Cos X, where X is the angle of bank.

I think you'll have to put speed into that math somewhere. A 75 degree bank a 0 knots won't do much boss :) I'd be very interested if you could track down a formula that takes speed into account.....Whos got a good physics background out there??? anyone got a formula??? Will help when I chat with my Professor when I next see him, I'm gonna see if he can track down any data or graphs on load factor vs Cerebral Blood flow (blood flow to the brain)
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Postby Charl » Mon Feb 26, 2007 7:57 pm

ZK-TJL wrote:
HardCorePawn wrote:
Cool TJL - yeah the first time I experienced more than 1G - amazing feeling (Tecnams can't really handle much though). 4Gs though? Thats quite a bit for a max rate turn I think.


45 degrees is around +1.41G, 60 degrees will be +2G and 75 degrees is +3.86... so I think he may have been exaggerating slightly ;) Although, you did mention that he "pulled hard", so maybe that would have increased the load factor.

If you're interested (and I just know all the high schoolers doing calculus will be... NOT!), you can calculate the Load Factor as 1/Cos X, where X is the angle of bank.

I think you'll have to put speed into that math somewhere. A 75 degree bank a 0 knots won't do much boss :) I'd be very interested if you could track down a formula that takes speed into account.....Whos got a good physics background out there??? anyone got a formula??? Will help when I chat with my Professor when I next see him, I'm gonna see if he can track down any data or graphs on load factor vs Cerebral Blood flow (blood flow to the brain)

I think it's understood that it's a non-slip turn maintaining altitude.
To maintain a bank angle requires a certain speed and turn radius for a given aircraft, so you could then simply talk bank angle and load factor.
US Air Force is a good resource for blood outta da head stuff.
They train to a sustained 9g I believe, having started with 4g blackout.
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Postby PILOT WARRIOR » Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:49 pm

Good to see you enjoyed your first flight and if you think that was good, wait until you do your first solo.
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