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by **HercFeend** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:02 pm

pois0n wrote:
QUOTE (pois0n @ Jan 19 2009, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you doing your training in the tomahawks or cherokees?

Ask to do some wingdrop stalling in DUP!

In the 140 Cherokees!! I was up in EBV the other day........really stable a/c, hard to get a wind drop out of it!!

by **pois0n** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:26 pm

HercFeend wrote:
QUOTE (HercFeend @ Jan 19 2009, 02:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In the 140 Cherokees!! I was up in EBV the other day........really stable a/c, hard to get a wind drop out of it!!

That's probably one of the best cherokees, planning to do my CPL test in that..or the warrior EBW

But DUP is a good one for wingdrops, apparantly its got two different wings on it. One of them got damaged at some point and they just replaced it with another, but its ever so slightly different so it just wingdrops at the snap of your fingers

by **K5054NZ** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:39 pm

Gonna talk to the local instructor tomorrow and book a lesson for Saturday....gotta get back up there!!!!

Any tips from ANYONE for a semi-new PPL student?

by **MeGoFlying** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:36 am

Hi Peoples,

Well had my first practical lesson in the air!! Went down to the CAC and booked myself in to one of the fine fine Tomahawks(RPD). Pre-checks were done and have stored them in my head for future reference. Went to the briefing where MWH explained to me that we will being doing EFFECTS OF CONTROLS. We went through the brief and looked on the OHP....all looked pretty simple....

Got into the craft done all the checks...noted the dodgey trim wheel that was clicking as we moved it...Now for the taxi...OMG how many of you guys have started to taxi and used the yoke instead of the pedals?(Please tell me alot have!) What a tard...Got to grips with the taxiing after time and realised you have to give them a bloody good shunt to get them round.

MWH then tells me to radio Delivery...oohhhh ok...Hahaha wasnt as bad as I thought it would be and now am no to worried as its only a person on the other end!!

Right got clearance on to 20 Grass for city ops...then MWH says right Ryan you take-off(I beg your pardon?) So I take a big breathe and put the hammer down...Jesus we were a bit wobbly going down the track(thank-god for the width of the grass 20!!) right-left-right-left.........ARGGGGHHH stop touching the yoke and use your feet mate!!!(very annoyed with myself at this stage!). We get airbourne then I start "sawing" on the controls(A common mistake apparently?)...MWH just tells me to let and bump. So i do.

We get above Hagley and start doing the effects of controls and the one thing that I get confused with is the: SPEED UP AND THE PLANE WILL NOSE UP AND YAW TO THE ______ SPEED DOWN AND THE PLANE WILL YAW TO THE______. Much confusing as im trying to makesure im making a good impression and concentrating on not putting the Tommy into the ground!!

The pitch was also quite confusing...When I normally pitch down i normally use a bit of trim up(on FS2004) so i go sink so quick. I was a bit confused(and will ask my instructor next lesson) Im pretty sure that MWH was telling me when i pitch down i should trim down also? is this right? seems like you would pitch down to strongly with pitch and trim heading down? (help me on these ones guys?...is there a good poem of acronym top remember for this?)

OMG the weather starts packing in...and we can see the water spout that is reported in Sumner!! Soon going to be a thunder and lighting storm!! MWH says lets head back...and I bring it around with the aid of MWH to Jelly Park...then MWH tells me to head to the tarmac...ummmm what tarmac there are a few runways mate 11,29,02,20 i was was heading for 29!! so then he tells me 20! Right now ive got it!..Start heading for the end of 20 then bank to the right for 20 grass...on a massive southerly tail-wind!..he says your landing it boyo...Jesus these trainers put alot of trust on someone that hasnt flown one of these!!....we glide in past the windsock and throttle off....I definately flared way to much and made her lift and catch a bit of breeze which pushed us to the right....then MWH says lets give her some brakes....yea no worrys...I pull the bloody park brake...INSTEAD OF THE PEDAL BRAKES!!...what a shocker...

That was it we de-briefed and MWH was happy(to my suprise?!) he said that was very very good that you landed the plane in that tail-wind!!...I thought I was s**t to be honest and I feel a little bit pissed off with myself!! I know that you just cant have one lesson and be awesome, but I did feel I could have done better!!

Ryan

by **Vegetableman** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:55 am

As far as trim goes, if you're holding the stick back then trim back, and forward trim forward.

by **MeGoFlying** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:27 am

Vegetableman wrote:
QUOTE (Vegetableman @ Jan 20 2009, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As far as trim goes, if you're holding the stick back then trim back, and forward trim forward.

Thanks mate.

The reason being I suppose is stop pilot fatigue? so you dont have to keep pushing down? then I suppose if it gets a little to nose down you can raise the yoke and trim accordingly?

Cheers

by **Alex** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:18 pm

Yea, trim to get rid of the stick pressure, don't 'fly by the trim'. Set up a good attitude and trim to it.

Alex

by **HercFeend** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:54 am

woohoo got sent out solo last night......... Only circuits at WL but still left a big smile on my face.

Just though I'd brighten everyone's day

by **HardCorePawn** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:15 am

MeGoFlying wrote:
QUOTE (MeGoFlying @ Jan 20 2009, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Got into the craft done all the checks...noted the dodgey trim wheel that was clicking as we moved it...Now for the taxi...OMG how many of you guys have started to taxi and used the yoke instead of the pedals?(Please tell me alot have!) What a tard...Got to grips with the taxiing after time and realised you have to give them a bloody good shunt to get them round.

I was lucky... my first "lesson" was actually taxi practice... I was at Palmerston North, and we taxied from the Massey Apron over to the big wide open spaces by the Fieldair hangar and then I got to practice turning and going and straight and doing tight turns on the spot etc... definitely made things easier for me right from the start.

I've noticed some of the new students we have, have had issues taxiing. I think it is a matter of 'over-correcting'... much like handling when airbourne... 'easy does it'... unless you're avoiding another aircraft

QUOTE

We get airbourne then I start "sawing" on the controls(A common mistake apparently?)...MWH just tells me to let and bump. So i do.[/quote]

Yeah... let the aircraft fly itself and ride through the bumps... you're not going to be able to counter the bumps by waggling the yoke left and right... all you will do is tire yourself out.

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The pitch was also quite confusing...When I normally pitch down i normally use a bit of trim up(on FS2004) so i go sink so quick. I was a bit confused(and will ask my instructor next lesson) Im pretty sure that MWH was telling me when i pitch down i should trim down also? is this right? seems like you would pitch down to strongly with pitch and trim heading down? (help me on these ones guys?...is there a good poem of acronym top remember for this?)[/quote]

Don't fly by trim... this is a VERY bad habit... did you get the 'Power-Attitude-Trim' briefing yet? From memory this is part of the 'Climbing and Descending' lesson...

Anyway, it sounds like you had a pretty eventful flight! And don't worry too much if you feel a little over-whelmed... we've all been there... and it gets easier with practice!

"Son, we are about the break the surly bonds of gravity, and punch the face of God." -- Homer Simpson

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