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Postby deecee3 » Mon May 19, 2014 7:53 pm

When i try to land an Orion or Hercules & i am in the chase plane these aircraft disappear briefly on touching the runway unless i land on grass . This problem doesn't occur with single or twin engine aircraft. I have the joystick force feedback enabled although disabling it doesn't solve the problem either.
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Postby Ian Warren » Mon May 19, 2014 8:24 pm

It maybe best to post some screens and also describe the who's aircraft (what models ) you are using and scenery may help.
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Postby deecee3 » Tue May 20, 2014 5:34 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ May 24 2014,9:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It maybe best to post some screens and also describe the who's aircraft (what models ) you are using and scenery may help.

Thanks Ian for your prompt response. Regarding the screens - can you tell me what you want the screen to show [i assume the screen is a screenshot?]. My aircraft include the AIRNZAF C-130E, Simshed C-130 RDAF & p-3c_.zip & the sceneries tried were Auckland Intl & Christchurch Intl [ not the default versions].
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Postby Ian Warren » Tue May 20, 2014 6:07 pm

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Thanks Ian for your prompt response. Regarding the screens - can you tell me what you want the screen to show [i assume the screen is a screenshot?]. My aircraft include the AIRNZAF C-130E, Simshed C-130 RDAF & p-3c_.zip & the sceneries tried were Auckland Intl & Christchurch Intl [ not the default versions].

Yes Indeed Screen is a screenshot, I do have FS9 on the PC , Christchurch is the best place to start and show, since I built the airport 2X plus an upgrade I maybe able to shed some light with your problem.
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Postby deecee3 » Tue May 20, 2014 7:47 pm

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Yes Indeed Screen is a screenshot, I do have FS9 on the PC , Christchurch is the best place to start and show, since I built the airport 2X plus an upgrade I maybe able to shed some light with your problem.

I have just run FS9 again & on landing i moved from the chase plane view to the side view & the Orion didn't disappear! Please advise the screenshots you need e.g aircraft on landing - aerial view of airport etc. Regards John
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Postby Ian Warren » Tue May 20, 2014 8:09 pm

John one good thing to try out, use your video replay to snap any abnormal to get a screen and compare from various positions you can repeat, if it shows a horrid landing screen it , for it maybe another reason, a mesh issue or a secondary afcad.
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Postby SeanG » Wed May 21, 2014 5:07 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
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John one good thing to try out, use your video replay to snap any abnormal to get a screen and compare from various positions you can repeat, if it shows a horrid landing screen it , for it maybe another reason, a mesh issue or a secondary afcad.


I would suspect a dodgy or missing "touchdown smoke" effect file or associated texture..... If the texture is missing it may render everything *behind* the invisible effect, err, invisible.... Seen it before when a texture doesn't load quickly enough

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Postby deecee3 » Wed May 21, 2014 5:12 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ May 25 2014,9:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
John one good thing to try out, use your video replay to snap any abnormal to get a screen and compare from various positions you can repeat, if it shows a horrid landing screen it , for it maybe another reason, a mesh issue or a secondary afcad.

Hi Ian, I have videoed the Orion & saved the file, now how can i forward the file [never having done this before!]. The video shows the disappearing act.
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Postby Ian Warren » Wed May 21, 2014 5:25 pm

Just easier to grab screens, something Sean mentioned regard to landing effects is also possible, If we see screens from your PC would be better.
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Postby deecee3 » Wed May 21, 2014 7:37 pm

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Just easier to grab screens, something Sean mentioned regard to landing effects is also possible, If we see screens from your PC would be better.

Ihave several screenshots but have no idea how to include them -HELP!
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Postby Ian Warren » Wed May 21, 2014 7:55 pm

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Ihave several screenshots but have no idea how to include them -HELP!

Ive been playing around with FS9 trying to reproduce the problem , put the screens into a folder and zip it up or you can try this help link here http://nzff.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13
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Postby deecee3 » Thu May 22, 2014 2:34 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
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Ive been playing around with FS9 trying to reproduce the problem , put the screens into a folder and zip it up or you can try this help link here http://nzff.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13





Is this what you need Ian? Regards John
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Postby SeanG » Thu May 22, 2014 2:42 pm

Looks like the smoke effect obscuring the aircraft...

look in the aircraft.cfg for the particular aircraft, look under the [effects] section..

[EFFECTS]
wake=fx_wake
water=fx_spray
dirt=fx_tchdrt
concrete=fx_sparks
touchdown=fx_tchdwn, 1

Have a look at what is listed under touchdown=****

Change it to what I have above and try it out (this is using the default touchdown smoke effect)

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Postby deecee3 » Thu May 22, 2014 2:49 pm

[quote name='deecee3' date='May 27 2014,3:34 AM' post='8352675']



Is this what you need Ian? Regards John


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Postby deecee3 » Thu May 22, 2014 2:55 pm

SeanG wrote:
QUOTE (SeanG @ May 27 2014,3:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looks like the smoke effect obscuring the aircraft...

look in the aircraft.cfg for the particular aircraft, look under the [effects] section..

[EFFECTS]
wake=fx_wake
water=fx_spray
dirt=fx_tchdrt
concrete=fx_sparks
touchdown=fx_tchdwn, 1

Have a look at what is listed under touchdown=****

Change it to what I have above and try it out (this is using the default touchdown smoke effect)

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I have exactly the same entries as you - thank you SeanG.
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Postby Ian Warren » Thu May 22, 2014 3:02 pm

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Is this what you need Ian? Regards John

Tell you the truth John , It was not what I expected ... I thought the aircraft was sinking into the ground and disappearing .

I never fly from those angles and I noticed the scenery very baron, It may be your point of view at the aircraft and being the more complex models because you did say, the defaults appear to work fine.

I would follow Sean's recommendations - compare the cfg.file - then if different , copy and replace .

Maybe if you try and screen from an oblique angle and a little higher up .. think it maybe your graphics card is on the low end, have you had these running before you have seen this problem.?

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Is this what you need Ian? Regards John

Maybe if you try and screen from an oblique angle and a little higher up .. think it maybe your graphics card is on the low end, have you had these running before you have seen this problem.?
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Postby deecee3 » Thu May 22, 2014 4:49 pm

Ian Warren wrote:
QUOTE (Ian Warren @ May 27 2014,4:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tell you the truth John , It was not what I expected ... I thought the aircraft was sinking into the ground and disappearing .

I never fly from those angles and I noticed the scenery very baron, It may be your point of view at the aircraft and being the more complex models because you did say, the defaults appear to work fine.

I would follow Sean's recommendations - compare the cfg.file - then if different , copy and replace .

Maybe if you try and screen from an oblique angle and a little higher up .. think it maybe your graphics card is on the low end, have you had these running before you have seen this problem.?


Maybe if you try and screen from an oblique angle and a little higher up .. think it maybe your graphics card is on the low end, have you had these running before you have seen this problem.?

I haven't had this problem with single & twin engine aircraft only with these particular models. My vidcard is a Nvidia GTX 460 v2 & hasn't given any image problems to date. I will now uninstall all of these aircraft & load one at a time to see if this fixes this glitch. Thank you & SeanG for your kind efforts & i shall report my findings. Best regards John
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Postby Ian Warren » Thu May 22, 2014 4:55 pm

Its damn annoying when you cannot find the answer, how is from a higher less close to the ground and slightly offset ? maybe a camera definition problem ?
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Postby omitchell » Thu May 22, 2014 7:11 pm

DX9 or DX10?
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Postby deecee3 » Thu May 22, 2014 10:31 pm

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DX9 or DX10?

DX9
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