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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:33 pm
by hoki1185
I'm looking at getting a computer with a 160gb SSD and a 1TB standard drive.What parts of FSXwould you run from the SSD and what would you run from the standard drive?Would you need to be loading and unloading software(aircraft and scenery addons) in order to keep the SSd below 160gb.Ian.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:12 pm
by dbcunnz
hoki1185 wrote:
QUOTE (hoki1185 @ Jan 14 2012,4:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm looking at getting a computer with a 160gb SSD and a 1TB standard drive.What parts of FSXwould you run from the SSD and what would you run from the standard drive?Would you need to be loading and unloading software(aircraft and scenery addons) in order to keep the SSd below 160gb.Ian.

I have just installed a SSD 128GB and have just about finished loading all my FSX an it have 105000 files 45GB also got REX 2 and SDK installed on it and still have over half of it free.
I run my win 7 x64 on a 110gb Partition on a 500gb satta-2 drive and another partition with all my FSX backup and downloads on.
I could still add another 40gb FSX addons on the SSD without any problems.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:44 pm
by happytraveller
dbcunnz wrote:
QUOTE (dbcunnz @ Jan 19 2012,6:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have just installed a SSD 128GB and have just about finished loading all my FSX an it have 105000 files 45GB also got REX 2 and SDK installed on it and still have over half of it free.
I run my win 7 x64 on a 110gb Partition on a 500gb satta-2 drive and another partition with all my FSX backup and downloads on.
I could still add another 40gb FSX addons on the SSD without any problems.

I have a 128GB SSD but would be careful if I started again. I have Windows 7 and FSX on the SSD, now finding that the SSD is virtually full due to some FSX add-ons insisting that they are installed in the main FSX folder. FSX keeps growing!!! Soon I will have to experiment with mklinks and try and move some of the FSX folders to the conventional HD.

So think before you install!! Wish that I had thought a little more.

smooth landings.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:30 am
by dbcunnz
happytraveller wrote:
QUOTE (happytraveller @ Jan 20 2012,12:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a 128GB SSD but would be careful if I started again. I have Windows 7 and FSX on the SSD, now finding that the SSD is virtually full due to some FSX add-ons insisting that they are installed in the main FSX folder. FSX keeps growing!!! Soon I will have to experiment with mklinks and try and move some of the FSX folders to the conventional HD.

So think before you install!! Wish that I had thought a little more.

smooth landings.

I gave it quite a bit of thought before installing onto the SSD and decided to leave the windows 7 x64 on a petition of the 500gb Sata 2 drive.
I have FSX 50.3GB now up to 116,589 Files, 5,794 Folders also REX 9.6GB and SDK 333MB a total of 60.3Gb used and 58.7GB free to add more FSX addons.
FSX loads much quicker than it did on the conventional HD and seem to be getting slightly better frame rate.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:02 pm
by wairoaboy
dbcunnz wrote:
QUOTE (dbcunnz @ Jan 20 2012,1:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I gave it quite a bit of thought before installing onto the SSD and decided to leave the windows 7 x64 on a petition of the 500gb Sata 2 drive.
I have FSX 50.3GB now up to 116,589 Files, 5,794 Folders also REX 9.6GB and SDK 333MB a total of 60.3Gb used and 58.7GB free to add more FSX addons.
FSX loads much quicker than it did on the conventional HD and seem to be getting slightly better frame rate.


I soooooo wish all the ORBX products could be supported outside of FSX!!! angry.gif

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:50 pm
by Rotordude
wairoaboy wrote:
QUOTE (wairoaboy @ Jan 20 2012,5:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I soooooo wish all the ORBX products could be supported outside of FSX!!! angry.gif

You can with Vista or 7 by using the mklink /j command, this makes a junction link

eg: I have ORBX folder on F:\flightsim Stuff\ORBX, FSX is on D:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X. But FSX, installers and the FTX central think it is on D: drive

to do this move not copy the ORBX folder to another drive and folder of your choice

Open a cmd prompt and cd in to the fsx root folder
create the juction to the new orbx path per example

mklink /j ORBX "F:\flightsim Stuff\ORBX"

A new folder(junction) will appear, The files are physically in the F:\flightsim Stuff\ORBX folder but are listed in the pseudo ORBX junction in the root FSX folder

It works, if it does not then ya done summit wrong...
Hope ya didn't get lost.

[edit]
The beauty about junctions is you can relocate entire application folders to a new drive "eg FSX" without having to reinstall anything like addons that have specific location keys and such. My Steam folder for example was moved that way, system still thinks it is on C: but it is not.

Scroll down for utoob vid

PostPosted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:24 pm
by hoki1185
Rotordude wrote:
QUOTE (Rotordude @ Jan 20 2012,8:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You can with Vista or 7 by using the mklink /j command, this makes a junction link

eg: I have ORBX folder on F:\flightsim Stuff\ORBX, FSX is on D:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X. But FSX, installers and the FTX central think it is on D: drive

to do this move not copy the ORBX folder to another drive and folder of your choice

Open a cmd prompt and cd in to the fsx root folder
create the juction to the new orbx path per example

mklink /j ORBX "F:\flightsim Stuff\ORBX"

A new folder(junction) will appear, The files are physically in the F:\flightsim Stuff\ORBX folder but are listed in the pseudo ORBX junction in the root FSX folder

It works, if it does not then ya done summit wrong...
Hope ya didn't get lost.

[edit]
The beauty about junctions is you can relocate entire application folders to a new drive "eg FSX" without having to reinstall anything like addons that have specific location keys and such. My Steam folder for example was moved that way, system still thinks it is on C: but it is not.

Thanks guys for the info thus far.What FSX addons would you laeve off the SSD?

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:11 pm
by nzkingair
Hi Pete,

I have Win 7 64 and FSX on a 500gb 10000rpm hdd along with FSX in the C: root directory. I have read a great deal on FSX being on a separate drive. Would it be of any advantage to move FSX to my spare 500gb drive? I was going to do a complete install of FSX onto the D: drive, but it will take an awfully long time to reinstall everything.

Would be most appreciative of your views and what would be the correct mk/link code?

Thanks
Warren.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:25 pm
by Rotordude
Personally I would be leaving FSX on the 10000rpm drive and moving the page file to a contiguous 12gig file on the spare drive. Being on the windows drive is not really the issue, it is the sharing of the same drive with the page file, you will also see an overall system performance boost as well.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:48 pm
by nzkingair
Rotordude wrote:
QUOTE (Rotordude @ Jan 23 2012,6:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Personally I would be leaving FSX on the 10000rpm drive and moving the page file to a contiguous 12gig file on the spare drive. Being on the windows drive is not really the issue, it is the sharing of the same drive with the page file, you will also see an overall system performance boost as well.



Thanks very much --- I will do that.

Kindest regards

Warren...

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:29 pm
by dart15
Rotordude wrote:
QUOTE (Rotordude @ Jan 20 2012,8:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You can with Vista or 7 by using the mklink /j command, this makes a junction link

eg: I have ORBX folder on F:\flightsim Stuff\ORBX, FSX is on D:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X. But FSX, installers and the FTX central think it is on D: drive

to do this move not copy the ORBX folder to another drive and folder of your choice

Open a cmd prompt and cd in to the fsx root folder
create the juction to the new orbx path per example

mklink /j ORBX "F:\flightsim Stuff\ORBX"

A new folder(junction) will appear, The files are physically in the F:\flightsim Stuff\ORBX folder but are listed in the pseudo ORBX junction in the root FSX folder

It works, if it does not then ya done summit wrong...
Hope ya didn't get lost.

[edit]
The beauty about junctions is you can relocate entire application folders to a new drive "eg FSX" without having to reinstall anything like addons that have specific location keys and such. My Steam folder for example was moved that way, system still thinks it is on C: but it is not.



I wasn't aware of this. Good info. Will the mklink /j command operate at any level of a directory structure?

Apart from ORBIX, would it make sense to move the Airplanes folder out of SimObjects if space was needed? Once the selected aircraft is loaded I assume no further call is made on that data until you select another aircraft - or am I wrong there?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:26 pm
by Rotordude
You can basically relocate any given folder with a junction, only thing to remember is any child directory does have to go with it.
Aircraft files may be accessed now and then depending on view, but the size of a given aircraft the seek and read time would be pretty darned minimal.
If it does not pan out the way you feel it should then deleting the junction is the same as deleting a normal folder but all you are doing is breaking the physical link (Just dont delete the new folder location or you will cry), all files in the moved folder will still in the new location and can be put back to original if need be.

Little demo video.... viewing on youtube will have higher res

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:00 pm
by dart15
Rotordude wrote:
QUOTE (Rotordude @ Jan 25 2012,10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You can basically relocate any given folder with a junction, only thing to remember is any child directory does have to go with it.
Aircraft files may be accessed now and then depending on view, but the size of a given aircraft the seek and read time would be pretty darned minimal.
If it does not pan out the way you feel it should then deleting the junction is the same as deleting a normal folder but all you are doing is breaking the physical link (Just dont delete the new folder location or you will cry), all files in the moved folder will still in the new location and can be put back to original if need be.

Little demo video.... viewing on youtube will have higher res


Thanks so much for passing that on - I have a feeling that I'm going to be forced to make use of this quite soon!!

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:57 am
by AndrewJamez
Do SSD drives get slower as they get full up like regular hard drives?