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Postby brownbox » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:58 pm

As you know, my computer is a super machine as itself :P The monitor, however, is not. It is a tired old 1997 Dell 17" bubble screen, that makes lots of noises when you put it on the highest refresh rate, and it is slightly fuzzy. I dont like this, because it seems to hurt my head, and my eyes, and I was strictly warned by the computer shop that this could cause me to "stuff my eyes". I say fair enough. :lol: Problem is, I dont want to go out spending hundreds on some fancy LCD. I just want something that will last atleast a couple of years, and will stop with the dam headaches!

So I was searching Trademe, and I found this
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... d=91764827

It used to cost 1300$ when it was new, and it also has a Sony Trinitron tube. Also 21" :drool: , and 1600x1200 resolution :drool: :drool:
It also has a price to match, and it in Hamilton which I can easily pick up, and save on the hefty postage costs :clap:

Oppinions?

I have seen nothing but good reviews about this monitor on the internet, and by the questions I asked, its all in good condition :thumbup:
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Postby Alex » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:17 pm

Looks ok to me :thumbup: . I've got a decent 17" (I think) flat screen CRT monitor here if someone wants to come and pick it up, the computer itself (now nearly 7 years old) died about a month ago. Otherwise it'll end up in the trash probably. ;)
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Postby toprob » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:27 pm

When I decided to replace my old 17", I went looking for a good CRT, but the main problem I had was the phony advertised sizes -- it would pay to ask what the actual visible screen size is. The 21" CRT monitors I looked at were all smaller than 19" LCDs.
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Postby brownbox » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:31 pm

yes, exactly why the 15" screen on my dads laptop=my 17" CRT. :angry:

I was just thinking
If anyone has a 21"CRT, could you please measure its depth, as my space is limited. Id say it should fit, but just want to make sure
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Postby Jimmy » Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:53 pm

looks nice brownbox, I once used a 19" lcd monitor and it was amazing in comparison the the 17inch.. So much more space to use :P

IMO CRTs are better than LCDs.. that one you looking at on tradme looks good, not to expensive..
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Postby brownbox » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:12 pm

thats whats holding me back... is it TOO not expensive?....

man, I think too much <_<

MO CRTs are better than LCDs

Couldnt agree more! CRT's have more vibrant colours, they have a higher quality picture, and LCDs seem to get blurry when things start moving really fast, especially in games
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Postby Zöltuger » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:48 pm

Jimmy wrote: IMO CRTs are better than LCDs

I couldn't disagree more, in my opinion LCD technology is now at a stage where CRT's are redundant, a relic of computer history consigned to a grave along side the 5 1/4" floppy and the 386
I've been using a 17" Samsung LCD for my games for the past 2 1/2 years, and it has performed flawlessly. Modern LCDs do not suffer from ghosting, are less expensive new compared to their CRT counterparts and have more than adequate colour reproduction. They won't pump radiation into you and you'll have more room on your desk for your joystick.
In fact, I'm so used to LCDs that I get nauseous from the flickering if I use a CRT for more than half an hour.

but if you're really trying to pinch pennies to tide you over until you get a new PC, then a CRT from trademe will have to do. I hope you've been to the gym recently to lift a 21in CRT :rolleyes:
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Postby Alex » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:55 pm

Precisely Zöltuger, exactly my thoughts as well. :clap:

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Postby brownbox » Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:56 pm

your telling me. 32KGS!!! :o

By the way, I brought it. I figured, hey, its only 65$. The reviews say its good. He says its good. The answers to the questions said it was good. And the price was right.


nauseous from the flickering

I find that I get an extremely sore head from using a monitor on anything below 85 htz.

Ohhh man, if this guy is fast at answering the email, I could have my new monitor by tomorrow! Cant wait!
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Postby ardypilot » Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:35 pm

I got an awesome Dell ex-office 17inch CRT from a electronics depo in Auckland for $60- best $60 I ever spent!

CRT's are heaps better than LCD's in my opinion. FS looks worse on our family PC with a flat screen, and if you move your eyes a little too high/low, they colours start to look inverted!
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Postby Zöltuger » Sat Mar 17, 2007 10:05 pm

Trolly wrote: CRT's are heaps better than LCD's in my opinion. FS looks worse on our family PC with a flat screen, and if you move your eyes a little too high/low, they colours start to look inverted!

you managed to point out the only two flaws of the LCD :P must have been an old LCD- modern LCDs have 160 degree viewing angles and excellent colour production. I would never go back to CRT, the benefit of extra desk space alone is worth it.
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Postby brownbox » Sun Mar 18, 2007 7:52 am

Not to mentioin how much you pay for them.... :o
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Postby Zöltuger » Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:23 am

In reality, brownbox, LCD's are now cheaper than CRTs:
on pricespy the cheapest 17" LCD is $265, whereas the cheapest 19" CRT (i.e. with a 17" viewable area) is $308
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Postby brownbox » Sun Mar 18, 2007 9:22 am

so they are! I stand corrected... B)
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Postby Charl » Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:27 am

My main monitor is LCD, and I have an old CRT as a second monitor.
There is a startling difference between what you see on the two.
LCD's don't do pure blacks, while CRT can give you essentially pitch black.
But an LCD gives a subtlety of shading that doesn't exist in the CRT world.
Trust me, when you make the switch you'd swear you have new improved software, and a new computer too.
And if you spring for a biggish widescreen one, you'll be wearing a large smile for a week :D
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Postby brownbox » Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:39 pm

alright, I picked it up today. My, its very nice. 1600x1200 @100hz suites me fine :drool:
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All my games run flawlessly, even after being switched to 1600x1200 with 4xaa, except need for speed carbon, which even then is playable. FS looks superb, and I dont have that stupid jagged fuzzy edge thing like I had before :lol:
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