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by **Timmo** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:49 pm

Hi Guys- As promised, Chatham Islands is now available on the website- This release includes replacement landclass (base landclass and VectorLandClass polygons), waterclass, seasons, a custom 15m mesh plus a variety of objects placed around the islands from the default library. No airports are included but instructions are given in the readme ...

Cheers!

by **scaber** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 5:55 pm

ok, downloaded at 6:55. "Just got home in time for this one!

Install is fine, first hours flying has revealed no errors. Will continue to fly and check . .

Ok, have spent another hour or so exploring. Can't find any obvious issues. Have flown the entire coast line and explored the off-shore islets (not all there but that's probably something to do with FSX's modelling rather than VLC)

Overall I'm very pleased with what you've done here. My last look at the Cathams was with the default scenery and that left so much to be desired that I never felt the need to try it again. This has inspired me to do a ChCh to Catham flight similar to the Lord Howe to Norfolk one I did recently. Thank you for your efforts, they are much appreciated.

by **dbcunnz** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:25 pm

Have downloaded will test it see if it is any better than the VectorLandClass_Chatham that I already have.

by **Splitpin** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:06 pm

Got it Timmo (8.06)

by **dbcunnz** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 10:13 pm

Very good Tim it is far better than the old VLC Chathams that I had I also have the chathams and Pit Island installed by Tis Meyers wich gives the airport buildings and the Pit Island airstrip

by **Timmo** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:20 am

dbcunnz wrote:
QUOTE (dbcunnz @ Mar 27 2011,10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very good Tim it is far better than the old VLC Chathams that I had I also have the chathams and Pit Island installed by Tis Meyers wich gives the airport buildings and the Pit Island airstrip

cool:) can you confirm that they play well together on your system? (Is no conflicts between runway data etc)

by **rayclyde** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:30 am

Timmo wrote:
QUOTE (Timmo @ Apr 1 2011,6:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Guys- Next up is Chatham Islands- This one requires a bit more testing so please only download it if you can spend time testing this scenery and provide details of any issues (don't worry, it should be uploaded to the website soon if all goes well)

If you can give a quick post when you download it (so I know who has) and then edit this post later with any findings.

Cheers!

Downloaded. Was working in the Chatham Islands when the first strip was put down - 1956. First aircraft was an RNZAF DC3 (I think)

Clyde Williams
Levin

by **Timmo** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:42 am

rayclyde wrote:
QUOTE (rayclyde @ Mar 28 2011,9:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Downloaded. Was working in the Chatham Islands when the first strip was put down - 1956. First aircraft was an RNZAF DC3 (I think)

Clyde Williams
Levin

Cool! Does the landclass capture the place OK? (Ive never been there in real life....)

by **Redda03** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:00 am

Seamless download - and really looks like the Chathams!!....

FYI at the Pitt Is airstrip the white tire strip markers are misaligned by about 15 degrees with the grass strip (05/23).

Cheers,

Bob R

by **rayclyde** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:09 am

Timmo wrote:
QUOTE (Timmo @ Apr 1 2011,5:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Guys- Next up is Chatham Islands- This one requires a bit more testing so please only download it if you can spend time testing this scenery and provide details of any issues (don't worry, it should be uploaded to the website soon if all goes well)

If you can give a quick post when you download it (so I know who has) and then edit this post later with any findings.

Cheers!

First: Thanks for your work.

Second: I know nothing about scenery design other than it is very difficult. What follows is mean't to be constructive only.

I took the precaution of de-activating existing Chatham Islands and Pitt Island sceneries. No problems at all - that I could see anyway. I then reactivated the existing scenery. Found that at Tuuta there were shrubs all over the place. Cured that by having your CI higher in the scenery list; everything ok then the two packages fitted seamlessly. With Pitt island the earlier (existing scenery) strip is aligned slightly differently. Both strips aligned ok at the (inland) end - well close enough anyway. The existing strip - seaward end - is about 10 degs of arc from yours. I am assuming from the Tuuta layout you designed to fit in with the earlier packages. If so hope this helps

Clyde Williams
Levin

by **rayclyde** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:15 am

Timmo wrote:
QUOTE (Timmo @ Apr 1 2011,5:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Guys- Next up is Chatham Islands- This one requires a bit more testing so please only download it if you can spend time testing this scenery and provide details of any issues (don't worry, it should be uploaded to the website soon if all goes well)

If you can give a quick post when you download it (so I know who has) and then edit this post later with any findings.

Cheers!

Further re your last comment. The Chathams are rather bare in large areas of trees but is it extensively covered by 'manuka' like scrub. For FSim purposes you have the land class reasonable well but the settlements etc would require a lot of work. I think you have it pretty well - admitting that it was some 50 odd years since I worked there.

Clyde Williams
Levin

by **dbcunnz** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:54 pm

Timmo wrote:
QUOTE (Timmo @ Mar 28 2011,5:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
cool:) can you confirm that they play well together on your system? (Is no conflicts between runway data etc)

Yes they seem to work well together I couldn't see any conflicts at the airport I will do another test with the Chatham Pit Island turned off to see if there is any difference.

by **dbcunnz** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:27 pm

There was a slight conflict with the Chatham Islands and the VLC Chathams but by removing a couple of files from Chatham Islands it works very well the Runway is a bit darker and there are a few trees changed but everything else seems to fit in very well

The VectorLandClass_ChathamIsland.

The VectorLandClass_ChathamIsland plus Chatham Island with the two LC files taken out.

The VectorLandClass_ChathamIsland plus Chatham Island with the two LC files and one terrain file taken out.

The airport buildings from the Chatham Islands.

by **Timmo** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:11 am

Cheers for that- I had a play around also to see if/how I could get them to play well with each other.....

What I've decided to do is this: Only provide a basic flatten for the airport and then provide instructions on how to make the two other versions of Chatham Islands work with the VLC data. I'll update the readme and post a new installer soon.

Better get to it

by **Ian Warren** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:31 pm

Tim , No issues , it went straight in

and even the very same Convair happened to be parked up .

by **Timmo** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:46 pm

Ok guys- Here is a new version to test how the airports play with the VLC data- There are now instructions in the readme on what files to disable for both Lawries and Tis' airports to make them work.
Just uninstall the previous version and install this one (you'll get a warning that the scenery already exists in the library...this is just proof that Mr Corn still 'has it' in terms of awesome installer script writing

)

If you could do this and let me know how you get on....all going well I may be able to upload it to the website tonight.

by **Ian Warren** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:21 pm

Again it simply installed without any problem , two PCs , just make sure anything previous is deleted .

by **Snowman** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:10 pm

Seeing as how Timmo mentions me as the builder of the other NZCI airport scenery to fit his VLC Chathams, i thought i'd better show a few pics of what ive been up to there.
Heres a couple of random shots from a flight i did from NZCH to NZCI in NAC F-27 ZK-NAA............

Should be up and available for download from my website before the weekend.
Requires FSX SP-2 plus the VLC Chathams scenery, and the install of my FSX Static Objects Library, available from my website.

Lawrie.

by **Redda03** » Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:42 pm

[quote name='Snowman' date='Apr 3 2011,6:10 AM' post='8280094']
Seeing as how Timmo mentions me as the builder of the other NZCI airport scenery to fit his VLC Chathams, i thought i'd better show a few pics of what ive been up to there.
Heres a couple of random shots from a flight i did from NZCH to NZCI in NAC F-27 ZK-NAA............

Lawrie,

Is great to see you back!!

Cheers,

Bob R

by **rayclyde** » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:53 am

Timmo wrote:
QUOTE (Timmo @ Apr 3 2011,12:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok guys- Here is a new version to test how the airports play with the VLC data- There are now instructions in the readme on what files to disable for both Lawries and Tis' airports to make them work.
Just uninstall the previous version and install this one (you'll get a warning that the scenery already exists in the library...this is just proof that Mr Corn still 'has it' in terms of awesome installer script writing )

If you could do this and let me know how you get on....all going well I may be able to upload it to the website tonight.

2nd version good with me. I took the opportunity to 'fly' around the main island 'Wharekauri' and 'Pitt' I thnk you do have the land class fairly well. One comment; On Wharekauri and at the main settlement Waitangi there is shown a large radio mast just to the west of the wharf. It may well be there now but as late as 1983 when I briefly visited the island again the large radio mast was one of three placed immediately between the radio station and the cliff to it's west. The radio station - where I worked as a radio operator - is the group of buildings about a mile due south of Waitangi. The first strip - the one I mentioned earlier - was a grass strip about 10kms to the north west and across the lagoon from Tuuta Airport. It was at 43 45S 175 57E. There were no formed roads in the area and to go there you either travelled across the lagoon in a large cart drawn by a tractor or you drove across the 'clears' [as the scrub covered land was usually called]. The lagoon was in parts only two to three feet deep and there was a marked track - poles in the sea-bed - that the tractor driver could follow. Some years after I left the Chathams in 1958 a special covered in truck with Bristol Freighter wheels [I kid you not] was built and used for this purpose. The kids loved the cart I do not know that the adults were that keen. To drive however was quite a journey. You followed general tracks [tyre marks in the swampy ground] and hoped to avoid getting stuck in the mud. In fact in those days roads generally did not go much more than a few kms from Waitangi and if you asked a local how long it took to drive to a certain placed they would answer you by saying "that trip is about (so many) 'stucks'. Time taken was how well you avoided getting stuck and/or how well you got out of them. Thanks again

Clyde Williams
Levin

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